Do you track your M3/M4?

avantix · 11-03-2017, 04:53 PM

Yup and it's so much fun. Did a few track days this year with stock tires, last one was with the newer Michelin 4S which were very capable. Got myself some Apex EC7s paired with NT01s, looking forward to next year

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ImGoingPlaces · 11-03-2017, 06:01 PM

im very interested in learning how to drive the car properly and id like to track it several times per year but im having a hard time finding a place to do so near NYC. Any tips would be appreciated

blschaefer1 · 11-03-2017, 08:01 PM

Very interesting.....the poll is settling right at 50/50.

So here’s a question. Those of us that participate in this forum fall into the ‘enthusiast’ bucket and are therefore more likely to track I would think.

Considering ALL the M3/M4’s that are sold, what percentage do you think see track duty?

captainaudio · 11-03-2017, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ImGoingPlaces

im very interested in learning how to drive the car properly and id like to track it several times per year but im having a hard time finding a place to do so near NYC. Any tips would be appreciated

Lime Rock Park, "The Road Racing Center of the East" is about 2 1/2 hours from NYC.

http://limerock.com/

MRV99 · 11-03-2017, 11:06 PM

Watkins Glen is a brief 250 miles or so.

SakhirM4 · 11-03-2017, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blschaefer1

Very interesting.....the poll is settling right at 50/50.

So here’s a question. Those of us that participate in this forum fall into the ‘enthusiast’ bucket and are therefore more likely to track I would think.

Considering ALL the M3/M4’s that are sold, what percentage do you think see track duty?

I bet it is around 15-20% overall

silvergray545 · 11-04-2017, 02:50 AM

My E46 M3 is my dedicated track weapon. I will take the F80 to the track next season. Maybe a chill day or two. Call me crazy, but I think the E46 is more fun for that specific use. Not to mention, it is cheaper to walk away from a balled up E46 versus a balled up F80.

gatorfast · 11-04-2017, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blschaefer1

Very interesting.....the poll is settling right at 50/50.

So here’s a question. Those of us that participate in this forum fall into the ‘enthusiast’ bucket and are therefore more likely to track I would think.

Considering ALL the M3/M4’s that are sold, what percentage do you think see track duty?

Probably 5% or less would be my guess.

Obioban · 11-13-2017, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ctgeorge

Funny I find NJMP Thunderbolt to be boring, zero evaluation changes.

I think you're driving a different Thunderbolt than me.

Turn 2 is over a blind up hill turn, going into turn 4 is also uphill, 6-7 are downhill off camber, the entire octopus is uphill, the front straight is downhill.

Turn 2 alone should negate any "zero elevation change" comments

Tommy L Garage · 11-14-2017, 08:27 AM

My recent VIR experience. Forget about NJMP - THIS is my new favorite track

...and yes I'm leaving a lot on the table. First time with this RWD platform

DEANMW · 11-14-2017, 11:01 PM

Where is the checkbox for: 'not enough'?

vaxx · 11-19-2017, 03:08 PM

Not yet.
I used to go tracks with my e46 csl

uniqueMR · 01-12-2018, 09:10 PM

Not yet

GrussGott · 01-13-2018, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captainaudio

My M4 is street only. When I drive on a track I drive dedicated track cars.

adjacent to this point I liberally interpreted "track" to mean "sport drive", i.e., against the clock or others.

I don't often "event" drive, but when I do, it's not in my car.

Brasko · 01-13-2018, 08:01 PM

I've taken my 2016 M3 Non-ZCP to the track/used it in driver training courses. Mainly because I knew I was trading it in for the ZCP version. Performed flawless at PIR, including a couple wet & rainy track sessions. Overall, great vehicle on the track. Would consider lowering/reducing body roll and upgrading tires to something more track specific to get the most out of it.

I don't plan on taking my 2016 M3 ZCP to the track. It currently has just under 9000 miles on the odometer and garage kept.

On that note, I voted yes.

Here are a few photos.

TypeOne · 01-16-2018, 01:35 PM

Haven't done any trackdays with the F80 but I plan on it... so it has been street 100% of the time so far. haha

mcvaughan · 01-16-2018, 04:51 PM

You bet.

aajjcc · 01-16-2018, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mcvaughan

You bet.

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Dudley346 · 01-17-2018, 10:57 AM

I'm tracking my M4 for now.

I live in Austin, TX and drive a new 2018 M4. I took European Delivery, 1300 mi, In June and then received it at the Spartanburg Performance center and drove home in September. Awesome experience.

I had tracked my old 2017 530i the year before (117,00 miles on it) and wanted to do the same with my new car. The opportunity came quickly in November at COTA. By then I had almost 7,000 milse on the car. An awesome experience to learn to drive fast and get to know all the settings in my car. It took me until the third day to get the right settings for getting around the track. I also noticed that when you have a quality car the experience is much better. But to my surprise I scrubbed a lot more rubber off my tires than the first time. I'll bet I used at least 25-40% of my tread wear in those 3 days running Michelin Super Sports.

I would like to do this once or twice a year going forward, so I'm beginning to look at buying a dedicated set of wheels (squares) and track only tires for those days. Who has recommendations? Apex Wheels look to be popular, but what about tires? I've seen NT01s recommended but how do they compare with my existing Super Sports, mostly in cost.

Finally, the one issue I have not researched is my new and extend vehicle warranty. Will tracking my car, HPDE events only with no actual racing, void my warranty?

jpdchicago · 01-17-2018, 11:36 AM

Only tracked once this year. Looking at insurance options right now. Regular insurance does not cover anything on track. You hit the wall, you are screwed. It is all in the fine print.

ibimmer954 · 01-17-2018, 11:58 PM

Lockton Motorsports will insure your car for certain sanctioned events. They will insure for events put on by BMWCCA and the Porsche Clubs, for example. That's a big reason I do events from those clubs. Covers your car and 5K of track damage. Maybe some towing too.

GlazierGlaze · 01-23-2018, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jpdchicago

Only tracked once this year. Looking at insurance options right now. Regular insurance does not cover anything on track. You hit the wall, you are screwed. It is all in the fine print.

Everyone knows this. That's why you get track day insurance through Lockton or Hagerty.

I track my car - did two events last year. I'm expecting to do 4-6 events this year.

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11-03-2017, 04:53 PM	#23
avantix Captain 344 Rep 941 Posts Drives: 2019 M4CS Lime Rock Grey Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montreal iTrader: (6)	Yup and it's so much fun. Did a few track days this year with stock tires, last one was with the newer Michelin 4S which were very capable. Got myself some Apex EC7s paired with NT01s, looking forward to next year - Attached Images __________________ 2019 M4CS Lime Rock Grey, MP HAS, GC camber plates, MPE
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ImGoingPlaces First Lieutenant 185 Rep 379 Posts Drives: AMG GTS Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	im very interested in learning how to drive the car properly and id like to track it several times per year but im having a hard time finding a place to do so near NYC. Any tips would be appreciated
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11-03-2017, 08:01 PM	#25
blschaefer1 First Lieutenant 205 Rep 393 Posts Drives: 2022 X3 xDrive 30i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Prescott, AZ iTrader: (1)	Very interesting.....the poll is settling right at 50/50. So here’s a question. Those of us that participate in this forum fall into the ‘enthusiast’ bucket and are therefore more likely to track I would think. Considering ALL the M3/M4’s that are sold, what percentage do you think see track duty?
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11-03-2017, 11:06 PM	#27
MRV99 Major 254 Rep 1,067 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 ZCP / 2017 RRS SC Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Naperville iTrader: (1) Garage List 2017 BMW M3 ZCP [0.00]	Watkins Glen is a brief 250 miles or so. __________________ 17 M3 ZCP -- 2017 Range Rover Sport SC --RIP-- 12 X5 50i Sport -- 11 M3 DCT -- 2011 X5 50i(Lemon) -- 2008 550 Msport -- 2007 x5 4.8 sport -- 2004 545 sport -- 2002 x5 4.4 sport -- 2001 540i Msport 2000 SL500 -- 1997 SL500
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11-04-2017, 02:50 AM	#29
silvergray545 Skittles, OT OG 2337 Rep 649 Posts Drives: Lots of M cars Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cleveland, OH iTrader: (1) Garage List 2016 BMW M3 ZCP [0.00] 2000 BMW M Roadster [0.00] 2004 BMW M3 [0.00] 2014 VW GLI [0.00]	My E46 M3 is my dedicated track weapon. I will take the F80 to the track next season. Maybe a chill day or two. Call me crazy, but I think the E46 is more fun for that specific use. Not to mention, it is cheaper to walk away from a balled up E46 versus a balled up F80.
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11-14-2017, 08:27 AM	#32
Tommy L Garage Colonel 2516 Rep 2,079 Posts Drives: 2017 YMB M3 6MT CP EP VP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Woodbridge, NJ iTrader: (2)	My recent VIR experience. Forget about NJMP - THIS is my new favorite track ...and yes I'm leaving a lot on the table. First time with this RWD platform
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11-14-2017, 11:01 PM	#33
DEANMW Private First Class 168 Rep 139 Posts Drives: 2024 M4 Comp Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2024 M4 [0.00] 2023 X5 [0.00]	Where is the checkbox for: 'not enough'?
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11-19-2017, 03:08 PM	#34
vaxx New Member 2 Rep 7 Posts Drives: e46 m3 csl , f80 m4 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Spain, Málaga iTrader: (0)	Not yet. I used to go tracks with my e46 csl
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01-12-2018, 09:10 PM	#35
uniqueMR Colonel 1882 Rep 2,924 Posts Drives: ... Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Not yet __________________ Currently: '24 Mercedes G63 \| '24 Porsche GT3 RS \| '24 Volkswagen GTI Previous BMWs: 340i, 740i, 745Li, M3, M4 Previous Others: Audi, Ducati, Honda, Infiniti, Land Rover, Mercedes-Benz, MINI, Mitsubishi, Porsche, Toyota, Volkswagen
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01-13-2018, 08:01 PM	#37
Brasko #LSBM3 1420 Rep 1,973 Posts Drives: 2016 BMW M3 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Oregon / Florida iTrader: (4) Garage List 1984 BMW R65 [0.00] 2020 Ford F-150 XLT ... [0.00] 2003 Mitsubishi Evo ... [0.00] 2016 M3 Competition ... [10.00]	I've taken my 2016 M3 Non-ZCP to the track/used it in driver training courses. Mainly because I knew I was trading it in for the ZCP version. Performed flawless at PIR, including a couple wet & rainy track sessions. Overall, great vehicle on the track. Would consider lowering/reducing body roll and upgrading tires to something more track specific to get the most out of it. I don't plan on taking my 2016 M3 ZCP to the track. It currently has just under 9000 miles on the odometer and garage kept. On that note, I voted yes. Here are a few photos. Attached Images __________________ /// M3
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01-16-2018, 01:35 PM	#38
TypeOne Enthuisiast 93 Rep 423 Posts Drives: G05 X5 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Baton Rouge iTrader: (0)	Haven't done any trackdays with the F80 but I plan on it... so it has been street 100% of the time so far. haha __________________ AW F80 M3 / RAYS / TOYO TIRES / BMS IG: @hybrid_david
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01-16-2018, 04:51 PM	#39
mcvaughan Lieutenant Colonel 704 Rep 1,917 Posts Drives: F87 Competition Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Katy, TX iTrader: (1)	You bet. Attached Images __________________ Matt
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01-17-2018, 10:57 AM	#41
Dudley346 Registered 0 Rep 4 Posts Drives: 2018 M4 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	Love COTA I'm tracking my M4 for now. I live in Austin, TX and drive a new 2018 M4. I took European Delivery, 1300 mi, In June and then received it at the Spartanburg Performance center and drove home in September. Awesome experience. I had tracked my old 2017 530i the year before (117,00 miles on it) and wanted to do the same with my new car. The opportunity came quickly in November at COTA. By then I had almost 7,000 milse on the car. An awesome experience to learn to drive fast and get to know all the settings in my car. It took me until the third day to get the right settings for getting around the track. I also noticed that when you have a quality car the experience is much better. But to my surprise I scrubbed a lot more rubber off my tires than the first time. I'll bet I used at least 25-40% of my tread wear in those 3 days running Michelin Super Sports. I would like to do this once or twice a year going forward, so I'm beginning to look at buying a dedicated set of wheels (squares) and track only tires for those days. Who has recommendations? Apex Wheels look to be popular, but what about tires? I've seen NT01s recommended but how do they compare with my existing Super Sports, mostly in cost. Finally, the one issue I have not researched is my new and extend vehicle warranty. Will tracking my car, HPDE events only with no actual racing, void my warranty? Attached Images
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01-17-2018, 11:36 AM	#42
jpdchicago Major 1359 Rep 1,394 Posts Drives: M4 CSL, X3MC Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Chicago area iTrader: (0)	Only tracked once this year. Looking at insurance options right now. Regular insurance does not cover anything on track. You hit the wall, you are screwed. It is all in the fine print.
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01-17-2018, 11:58 PM	#43
ibimmer954 Major 138 Rep 1,424 Posts Drives: '23 i4 M50, '15 M3, '18 911 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego, California, USA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW M3 [9.75] 2023 BMW i4 M50 [0.00] 2018 Porsche 911 C4S [0.00] 2019 BMW X4 M40i [0.00]	Lockton Motorsports will insure your car for certain sanctioned events. They will insure for events put on by BMWCCA and the Porsche Clubs, for example. That's a big reason I do events from those clubs. Covers your car and 5K of track damage. Maybe some towing too.
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