Should I buy an M4 that had a spun crank hub?

SickGTR · 12-12-2018, 07:49 PM

New member. Have had 2 M cars in the past. Thinking of getting another. Buddy is selling his 15 M4. Had the spun crank issue, fixed by BMW. What is your guys opinion on buying one that had that problem?

dezzracer · 12-12-2018, 08:11 PM

Man.. so many other things I would consider. Price, miles, condition, color, how it was driven, is your buddy OCD about cars etc. etc.

CachacoF80 · 12-12-2018, 08:21 PM

I would give great importance to how much you trust your friend as it relates to the care he has taken of the car. If I found buyers that I truly trust I would buy used more often, and happily pay a bit of a premium. But that's my biggest deterrent of buying used sports oriented cars.

SickGTR · 12-13-2018, 04:18 PM

Thanks fellas. Appreciate the help!

overlook637 · 12-13-2018, 04:25 PM

How long ago was the repair? What was repaired?

I would want at least 3000 miles since the repair so that any issues have worked to the surface. Independent inspection with cylinder leak down or compression would be a sure way to know if the engine has any hidden issues.

IMO the market has plenty of non-repaired used cars to pick from for probably the same price.

Did they install any of the hub "fixes"?

nicknaz · 12-13-2018, 04:35 PM

Fixed with what? New S55?

If that's documented in the work order and you know the friend well and trust them, go for it.

damageprone · 12-13-2018, 05:11 PM

If it was fixed by BMW, I don't see why not.

dpgfunk · 12-13-2018, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by damageprone

If it was fixed by BMW, I don't see why not.

NEVER trust a guy who lives in a slot machine

GOLFFRR · 12-13-2018, 05:17 PM

so many out there that have not had that happen, just say'n

damageprone · 12-13-2018, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dpgfunk

NEVER trust a guy who lives in a slot machine

I like to gamble.

RickFLM4 · 12-13-2018, 05:43 PM

What's his reason for selling it?

G35POPPEDMYCHERRY · 12-13-2018, 06:56 PM

whats to say some cars out there had spun-crank hubs and they just don't disclose it..

SickGTR · 12-13-2018, 07:48 PM

Was fixed by BMW. Very good deal. He is getting a 911 turbo

IK6SPEED · 12-13-2018, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

so many out there that have not had that happen, just say'n

So you would send all trade ins with fixed SCH, replaced engines or transmission to auction and never put them on your lot?

sdshah · 12-13-2018, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SickGTR

Was fixed by BMW. Very good deal. He is getting a 911 turbo

15's are selling for 40k would have to be way less than that

georgere · 12-14-2018, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SickGTR

Was fixed by BMW. Very good deal. He is getting a 911 turbo

Then get it.

GOLFFRR · 12-14-2018, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

So you would send all trade ins with fixed SCH, replaced engines or transmission to auction and never put them on your lot?

we look into the history of all trade ins yes, we have a lot of determining factors that we take into account when we decide to wholesale or keep on the lot. Im sure most dealerships do the same TBH

overlook637 · 12-15-2018, 09:36 AM

If you knew the repair was done correctly. But its about as much of a gamble as buying a different M that could suffer from a failure...

BMWjunkie · 12-15-2018, 01:01 PM

If everything else about the car is great, you can get all records, and as others have mentioned you know your buddy really took care of the car, then that's worth more in my mind than worrying about a mechanical repair that was fixed properly. You don't have the luxury of knowing how a car on a lot was driven or cared for, and frankly most people don't do anything more than drive the crap out of these and maintain them at minimum requirements.

It's not a new car anymore and if you plan on keeping it for a while then the repair won't matter. Any impact to resale years down the road will be minimal. Buy and enjoy!

SickGTR · 02-02-2019, 11:38 AM

Well I think I'm going to do it. 2015 16,000 miles. 44k. Car has tons of mods.( ALL top of the line ) Wheels, full suspension, Akro full Exhst, full clear wrap, aero parts and stage 2 tune w/ all needed parts. After the repair, car is back to stock ( tune ) Will put parts back on and tune when I figure out how to keep the hub from spinning again. LOL. It's Yaz Blue by the way. Wish Me Luck

Fast4d · 02-02-2019, 12:23 PM

I would not buy it without a leak down test. unless it has an extended warranty beyond the original 4 years/50k

NickyC · 02-02-2019, 01:50 PM

2 things regarding friends:

1. Never loan nor accept a loan from friends.
2. Never buy nor sell a car to friends.

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SickGTR Banned 1082 Rep 949 Posts Drives: 1000whpGTR/ F-82 YAS Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Dirt Jerz iTrader: (0)	Should I buy an M4 that had a spun crank hub? New member. Have had 2 M cars in the past. Thinking of getting another. Buddy is selling his 15 M4. Had the spun crank issue, fixed by BMW. What is your guys opinion on buying one that had that problem?
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dezzracer Major 1183 Rep 1,219 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 CS Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: The Great Mojave Desert iTrader: (0)	Man.. so many other things I would consider. Price, miles, condition, color, how it was driven, is your buddy OCD about cars etc. etc.
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CachacoF80 Captain 911 Rep 897 Posts Drives: San Marino Blue F80 - ZCP 6MT Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: SF Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	I would give great importance to how much you trust your friend as it relates to the care he has taken of the car. If I found buyers that I truly trust I would buy used more often, and happily pay a bit of a premium. But that's my biggest deterrent of buying used sports oriented cars.
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overlook637 Lieutenant 245 Rep 466 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	How long ago was the repair? What was repaired? I would want at least 3000 miles since the repair so that any issues have worked to the surface. Independent inspection with cylinder leak down or compression would be a sure way to know if the engine has any hidden issues. IMO the market has plenty of non-repaired used cars to pick from for probably the same price. Did they install any of the hub "fixes"?
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nicknaz Lieutenant General 3187 Rep 10,509 Posts Drives: C6Z Join Date: May 2008 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	Fixed with what? New S55? If that's documented in the work order and you know the friend well and trust them, go for it.
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SickGTR Banned 1082 Rep 949 Posts Drives: 1000whpGTR/ F-82 YAS Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Dirt Jerz iTrader: (0)	Well I think I'm going to do it. 2015 16,000 miles. 44k. Car has tons of mods.( ALL top of the line ) Wheels, full suspension, Akro full Exhst, full clear wrap, aero parts and stage 2 tune w/ all needed parts. After the repair, car is back to stock ( tune ) Will put parts back on and tune when I figure out how to keep the hub from spinning again. LOL. It's Yaz Blue by the way. Wish Me Luck
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