Will You Be Upgrading? (Poll in Thread)

[stein_325i]

So with the G8X officially revealed, I am curious as to what current F8X owners are thinking about the future of their garage.

Official G8X Reveal: https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1759748

G8X vs F8X Specs and Photos: https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1759880

[PsychCA]

I may upgrade in a couple of years, awaiting LCI models.
By the way, I think there is a typo: ''I am curious as to what current F3X owners are thinking about their future of their garage''

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by PsychCA

I may upgrade in a couple of years, awaiting LCI models.
By the way, I think there is a typo: ''I am curious as to what current F3X owners are thinking about their future of their garage''

Thanks, fixed it.

[tanmanbih]

Not really a big fan of the G8X but I know for sure it will grow on me. it slowly is already but then I realized today that "technically" F82 is the first M4.. so I might just trade it in for a Manual F82. and keep it forevaaaaa

[Suds]

I traded my 2015 M4 for a 2019 M4, I’ve got some time to decide if I want to follow the brand.

[PhatLyfe]

Next upgrade would be M5 or Audi S8

[bmwmdistrict]

Keeping my F82 likely for 10 years. I bought it a year ago with this in mind. The look is timeless and at just under 500hp it has more power than most cars have on the road.

[Suds]

My boss traded his 2015 S8 in on a 2020 S8, it’s a bad ass family ride.

Originally Posted by PhatLyfe

Next upgrade would be M5 or Audi S8

[MNR]

No...and it sucks to say that because I've been following the release closely for a year plus with every intention of upgrading to the G80.

The whole aura of the G80 was a killer powerplant and detachable AWD, right? Right. BMW now comes out and releases RWD variants only with AWD to follow at a later date. Take a deep dive and all they did was dumb down the car to appeal to the masses. What's so groundbreaking versus the F80?

Performance is lack luster. 0-60 is .2 worse (core) and only .1 faster (comp) than the F80 while the G80 has an extra gear and 50-75hp more. The torque nor power curves are as flat and the redline is shorter when compared to the F80. I'd say with every ounce of confidence that the G80 is going to feel as laggy and dull as the X3M that I drove was. With how many people complain about it on the F97 platform, hearing that really sucks.

They managed to add not 100lbs, not 300lbs, but 500lbs into a RWD platform of nearly the same car! I'm not trying to be a track rat and split hairs on weight but at 3,900lbs for RWD variants, what will the AWD variants be? Let's add 250lbs on top for the AWD system and that puts the G80 over TWO TONS at 4,150lbs. At that rate, you're roughly 100lbs away from an F90 which is a vastly superior car, in my opinion.

The M Performance plug is an absolute mess, as with the way the entire car was debuted. This video series goes to show just who BMW is trying to cater to. That M Performance exhaust belongs on a Cavalier from the 2000s. And the M Drift Analyzer? What a joke.

BMW literally stripped everything "M" about this car away from its identity to appeal to the masses and it is nothing but a flat-out disappointment. And yes, this behavior started subtly with the F80.

I'll be cherishing my time with my F80, wishing I had the opportunity to own an E90 (under warranty), and reminiscing about my time with the E46. The G80 is getting no love from me.

[kyrix1st]

Will be picking up CS/GTS in the next two years.

[spuntyb]

Not until the AWD LCI. Not interested in beta testing any car

For now, the short list is

F90
F97
RS5 Sportback
991.2 Carrera

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by MNR

No...and it sucks to say that because I've been following the release closely for a year plus with every intention of upgrading to the G80.

The whole aura of the G80 was a killer powerplant and detachable AWD, right? Right. BMW now comes out and releases RWD variants only with AWD to follow at a later date. Take a deep dive and all they did was dumb down the car to appeal to the masses. What's so groundbreaking versus the F80?

Performance is lack luster. 0-60 is .2 worse (core) and only .1 faster (comp) than the F80 while the G80 has an extra gear and 50-75hp more. The torque nor power curves are as flat and the redline is shorter when compared to the F80. I'd say with every ounce of confidence that the G80 is going to feel as laggy and dull as the X3M that I drove was. With how many people complain about it on the F97 platform, hearing that really sucks.

They managed to add not 100lbs, not 300lbs, but 500lbs into a RWD platform of nearly the same car! I'm not trying to be a track rat and split hairs on weight but at 3,900lbs for RWD variants, what will the AWD variants be? Let's add 250lbs on top for the AWD system and that puts the G80 over TWO TONS at 4,150lbs. At that rate, you're roughly 100lbs away from an F90 which is a vastly superior car, in my opinion.

The M Performance plug is an absolute mess, as with the way the entire car was debuted. This video series goes to show just who BMW is trying to cater to. That M Performance exhaust belongs on a Cavalier from the 2000s. And the M Drift Analyzer? What a joke.

BMW literally stripped everything "M" about this car away from its identity to appeal to the masses and it is nothing but a flat-out disappointment. And yes, this behavior started subtly with the F80.

I'll be cherishing my time with my F80, wishing I had the opportunity to own an E90 (under warranty), and reminiscing about my time with the E46. The G80 is getting no love from me.

You sir have comment of the year right here. I tried my best to explain these things in a polite way in the G8X forums and they banned me. There are so many things wrong with this car yet we have people acting as if its a revolution and that a manual would save everything when at best we all knew it would be an evolution and most likely a downgrade from the F8X. The M3 is within 10lbs shy of a C63/63S with a larger engine and two more cylinders and less of a sporting degree. Albert Biernmann was really trying to warn us.

[oduli81]

Originally Posted by MNR

No...and it sucks to say that because I've been following the release closely for a year plus with every intention of upgrading to the G80.

The whole aura of the G80 was a killer powerplant and detachable AWD, right? Right. BMW now comes out and releases RWD variants only with AWD to follow at a later date. Take a deep dive and all they did was dumb down the car to appeal to the masses. What's so groundbreaking versus the F80?

Performance is lack luster. 0-60 is .2 worse (core) and only .1 faster (comp) than the F80 while the G80 has an extra gear and 50-75hp more. The torque nor power curves are as flat and the redline is shorter when compared to the F80. I'd say with every ounce of confidence that the G80 is going to feel as laggy and dull as the X3M that I drove was. With how many people complain about it on the F97 platform, hearing that really sucks.

They managed to add not 100lbs, not 300lbs, but 500lbs into a RWD platform of nearly the same car! I'm not trying to be a track rat and split hairs on weight but at 3,900lbs for RWD variants, what will the AWD variants be? Let's add 250lbs on top for the AWD system and that puts the G80 over TWO TONS at 4,150lbs. At that rate, you're roughly 100lbs away from an F90 which is a vastly superior car, in my opinion.

The M Performance plug is an absolute mess, as with the way the entire car was debuted. This video series goes to show just who BMW is trying to cater to. That M Performance exhaust belongs on a Cavalier from the 2000s. And the M Drift Analyzer? What a joke.

BMW literally stripped everything "M" about this car away from its identity to appeal to the masses and it is nothing but a flat-out disappointment. And yes, this behavior started subtly with the F80.

I'll be cherishing my time with my F80, wishing I had the opportunity to own an E90 (under warranty), and reminiscing about my time with the E46. The G80 is getting no love from me.

so well written, I salute you my friend, you nailed it. a sport car purchase is an emotional purchase and this new platform and design, does nothing for me.

[oduli81]

Originally Posted by jstein55

You sir have comment of the year right here. I tried my best to explain these things in a polite way in the G8X forums and they banned me. There are so many things wrong with this car yet we have people acting as if its a revolution and that a manual would save everything when at best we all knew it would be an evolution and most likely a downgrade from the F8X. The M3 is within 10lbs shy of a C63/63S with a larger engine and two more cylinders and less of a sporting degree. Albert Biernmann was really trying to warn us.

aahaahhs I got banned as well. very sensitive group over there.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by oduli81

aahaahhs I got banned as well. very sensitive group over there.

Yep, i was very conservative in what I posted, even complimented as much as I could. In the F8X vs G8X photo comparison I remained on topic, said F8X was a tailored suit and G8X was a bit portly, comment was removed, yet the comment under mine said "ugly ass grills confirmed." Not on topic, uses profanity and negative about the G8X yet it stayed in the thread :

[Wanted_M]

My CS just went up in price, woohoo
That new M3/4 is hideous, looks like BMW designers never spoke to each other and went into a room and dropped off their crappy parts and left as nothing flows lol..

[MNR]

Originally Posted by jstein55

You sir have comment of the year right here. I tried my best to explain these things in a polite way in the G8X forums and they banned me. There are so many things wrong with this car yet we have people acting as if its a revolution and that a manual would save everything when at best we all knew it would be an evolution and most likely a downgrade from the F8X. The M3 is within 10lbs shy of a C63/63S with a larger engine and two more cylinders and less of a sporting degree. Albert Biernmann was really trying to warn us.

Originally Posted by jstein55

Yep, i was very conservative in what I posted, even complimented as much as I could. In the F8X vs G8X photo comparison I remained on topic, said F8X was a tailored suit and G8X was a bit portly, comment was removed, yet the comment under mine said "ugly ass grills confirmed." Not on topic, uses profanity and negative about the G8X yet it stayed in the thread :

Thank you!

The guys over in that section are in denial. I've posted on there during the testing phases and comments disappear if they are unliked. I cross posted what I typed here just to see if it will make it, but I doubt it will be there for very long

[Arcades]

What's been said about the G8x has been said already.

The look is extremely polarizing. You either like it or you don't, most of us who followed BMW since the E46 days will not like this look. The newer generation, average people who don't follow cars as closely as we do probably will because it's "aggressive."

Performance wise, BMW isn't doing anything new here. AWD for the M cars have been subtly suggested for years now. Audi has had AWD for their cars for years before BMW even started pushing for it. S and RS Audi cars all have it. Even Porsche has subtly shoved AWD in their cars too without really plastering it all in your face. When the F8x was introduced, it was clear RWD cars are about as maxed out as you can get when it comes to tech. You just cannot put soo much HP and Torque into a pure RWD car and not expect tire spin. With BMW always chasing better 0 - 60 numbers, it is what all of us expected to happen. We also expected them to drop the M-DCT as BMW isn't trying to update it to support more Torque. Especially after the ZF contract, we knew that would be the end of M-DCT most probably. Which is a damn shame because of how unique the M-DCT is when it comes to Dual Clutch gearboxes.

And do not get me started with the interior. They have even said they are cost cutting so they can plug in things without changing too much. The fruits of that is now, all of their G chassis cars interior wise look exactly identical to everything else. While that means you don't have much of a learning curve jumping from one BMW to another, but that also makes all of their cars interior wise the same. From the extremely expensive 8er all the way down to the 3er, it is ALL the same. Even M cars are shoved in this mix along with the SUVs. They are all the same. When I saw what BMW showed interior wise, giving you that different colored look bucket seats, the only thing that came to mind is "How much $$$ did they just shove in the interior to make it look unique." Those of us with experience with BMW's Individual Ordering process, knows that you can pretty much order anything interior wise if you describe it correctly to them (BMW). Of course, that also means they charge you hard for it. All I saw with that view of BMW showing the G8x interior and all that differently colored leather on bucket seats is, "BMW just shoved in 2k+ worth of design language in your face and you all bought it up."

0 - 60 numbers are nothing but marketing. The mass majority won't need that amount of HP, nor would they ever come close in using all of it. Not to mention, going faster to 60 only means the fun and experience of driving ends faster. With how boring the X3M Comp was to drive, I am not expecting any different with the G80 either. Yes, I could be wrong on the performance part but with how diluted BMW's lineup has been with the G chassis cars, I am not expecting any wow factor.

As someone else pointed out, Thomas from Autogefuhl did a video for the G8x and it is the first time in a video I have seen him look so disappointed.

There is no amount of shenanigans BMW can pull to make the ZF tranny feel unique or special. It is still a torque automatic and with the 6speed regulated to the base "Pure" G80... Yeah...

I just can't. I am extremely disappointed with BMW. Maybe the next M2 would salvage this view for me but I am not expecting it to be different at this point.

[oduli81]

Originally Posted by jstein55

Yep, i was very conservative in what I posted, even complimented as much as I could. In the F8X vs G8X photo comparison I remained on topic, said F8X was a tailored suit and G8X was a bit portly, comment was removed, yet the comment under mine said "ugly ass grills confirmed." Not on topic, uses profanity and negative about the G8X yet it stayed in the thread :

I posted the photo comparing my tanzanite blue m4 and the yellow g8x m4. and a one liner about people not seeing this thing for what it is lol .. banned

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by oduli81

I posted the photo comparing my tanzanite blue m4 and the yellow g8x m4. and a one liner about people not seeing this thing for what it is lol .. banned

The worst thing was they couldn't even give me a damn warning or message as to why I was banned, like at least do one common courtesy. I messaged a mod, because I literally have zero clue what was so bad about my postings especially in comparison to those who haven't been banned.

[oduli81]

Originally Posted by jstein55

The worst thing was they couldn't even give me a damn warning or message as to why I was banned, like at least do one common courtesy. I messaged a mod, because I literally have zero clue what was so bad about my postings especially in comparison to those who haven't been banned.

agreed... and they took 5 points away lmaoo..

[kyrix1st]

Not trying to hijack the thread but..

Actually, I am still considering G8x RWD as long as DCT is offered at extra cost option. From what I see, a bulk of the G8x potential buyers feel this way. If you want to make a difference, go vote on the DCT petition.

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1760132