[VIDEO] M4 spins out of control at Homestead Speedway, lessons learned

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

I wonder what the aggressive internet know-it-all think ...

Hmmm, I wonder who is the more aggressive one

I'll risk an answer to your query anyhow, I hope you won't feel belittled by it

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

...what Walter Rohrl did wrong when he crashed.

Almost impossible to say from the video. That looked like a pretty severe snap oversteer on turn-in, but the video doesn't show what instigated it.

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

Of course, they're all going to predent that they've never exceeded the limits and never spun out.

I think this quote taken from this very thread pretty much sums it up:

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

All us avid trackers went through this process and we have eaten (and are still eating) our fair share of humble pie .

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

My advice to the op, careful with the half baked euro mdm, it's not as good as the e92's euro mdm.

I am not sure how much you have followed the "Euro MDM" thread, but it seems that there is a way to make Euro-MDM a bit more predictable through appropriate coding. It seems that keeping "CTpmsMarket" to "US" makes for a "more polished" Euro-MDM.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by evanescent03

I think CanAutM3 means well.. he's very point blank and it can be a little abrasive but his posts are pretty darn informative and he seems like a far better driver than me. he's been wrong before and I've seen him admit to it. I defend him because he does offer a lot of info.. this thread he seems aggressive but if you read what the OP was saying... I think he was making stuff up a little.. not to intentionally deceive but probably just because he doesn't know any better (I'm referring to OP claiming to go full-countersteer when it sure appears he did not [during the slide]).

anyway, you're entitled to make your jabs, but wanted to give my perspective, and sorry, I know you didn't ask for my opinion but...

but again, yeah, he was a little mean, but I think OP may be in a little denial

Yes, I tend to be a bit blunt .

Hopefully the majority of folks can (as you do) see trough this and pick-up on whatever good I can contribute

Originally Posted by evanescent03

and I'm sure he is also able to take a little razzing.

Talking about razzing, in our track group, whomever has a an offtrack needs to wear the "John Deer cap" in the pits

[W///]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Yes, I tend to be a bit blunt .

Hopefully the majority of folks (as you) can see trough this and pick-up on whatever good I can contribute



Talking about razzing, in our track group, whomever has a an offtrack needs to wear the "John Deer cap" in the pits

Well it's one thing to be blunt. It's another thing to be blunt and useless at the same time, which you are not

[Groundpilot]

Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

Finally got to watch both videos in detail.

Where are your hands OP? Your instructor said "two hands on the wheel" multiple times.

Let me change your question and say where is OP himself

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by Groundpilot

Let me change your question and say where is OP himself

I have no clue. Didn't recognize his name so maybe a visit back once in a while guy. Maybe he thought most people don't track much and just wanted to give the rest of the forum a bit of advice on what to expect from an event. I recognize most of the people chiming in on here from back in the e92 days (for you guys that have moved on).

I think there should be a joint track section across all models for better info.

Hope OP comes back, reads his thread, and realizes there are a lot more experienced people all giving him sound advice and is able to utilize it for his next events.

[RussianPete]

wow i wish i knew about this, when is the next event?

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by Groundpilot

Let me change your question and say where is OP himself

still waiting lol

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

still waiting lol

He only has 4 posts and the last time he visited the forum goes back to Feb-10th, so he is not a very active member...

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

He only has 4 posts and the last time he visited the forum goes back to Feb-10th, so he is not a very active member...

so, he was really here to "warn" us not to learn anything.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

so, he was really here to "warn" us not to learn anything.

Charitable soul

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

He only has 4 posts and the last time he visited the forum goes back to Feb-10th, so he is not a very active member...

That's because you ran him off -

"As usual your answers tend to belittle others and stroke your own ego, you're the best driver, best engineer blah blah."

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Charitable soul

I learned not to ever have audio recording INSIDE the car.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

That's because you ran him off -

"As usual your answers tend to belittle others and stroke your own ego, you're the best driver, best engineer blah blah."

[Groundpilot]

Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

so, he was really here to "warn" us not to learn anything.

I am sure he is reading his own thread.
But maybe he thinks we have no idea what we are talking about

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by Groundpilot

I am sure he is reading his own thread.
But maybe he thinks we have no idea what we are talking about

we're just some posers on a forum though so he may be correct.

[MaynardZed]

Originally Posted by Groundpilot

I am sure he is reading his own thread.
But maybe he thinks we have no idea what we are talking about

He's right. Clearly the M3/4 is a very dangerous car since a slow gentle spin cannot be corrected even with the steering wheel turned to full lock.

We should all stop tracking ours.

[j09333]

Oh.... I spun out toward wall today taking usual drift lesson with full lock lol!
It was so fun to watch wall coming to me NOT!!!!
Gopro screwed my memory card but hopely I can recover to show you guys what happened....

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by j09333

Oh.... I spun out toward wall today taking usual drift lesson with full lock lol!
It was so fun to watch wall coming to me NOT!!!!
Gopro screwed my memory card but hopely I can recover to show you guys what happened....

Were you looking at the wall? I never see walls lol. Hopefully you saved some great content!

[redpriest]

That's a very gentle spin, heh. I'm a noob at this too, but I think it's important to take ownership of your mistakes. All the stuff happening below is my fault:

Sometimes you win:

Sometimes you win and it's ugly:

Sometimes you lose:

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by redpriest

That's a very gentle spin, heh. I'm a noob at this too, but I think it's important to take ownership of your mistakes. All the stuff happening below is my fault:

Sometimes you win:

Sometimes you win and it's ugly:

Sometimes you lose:

Win and ugly one. GET ON THE GAS!!

[F82FTW]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

An investment in schooling in skid control would be money well spent!That was a totally recoverable situation that could be corrected with some counter-steer and proper throttle control.Maybe this an intuitive reaction for us who have grown up in areas that have real winter!

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00

[j09333]

here is a vid from couple of days ago at Maclaren event in south korea.

Finally managed to do the 4 corner drift on dry tarmac.

Loads of fun!!!