Had an M4 on order, bought C63 instead

[Habber]

Mercedes isn't making changes to piss of current clients. It's called marketing. Making your current car look less desirable brings in more clients through the door.

[spdandpwr]

LOL, why are we debating changes...cars nowadays go through more evolutions and refreshes than ever before AND the amount that changes between model years is staggering. You can't sit on the sidelines waiting for the next best thing because sure enough another feature will be released the following year.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by Naz24

Well you just rained on my parade lol. I got 18% off and I'm happy with the deal, considering.

In the end, it's just a lease and the value is still there.

The issue is the AMGs also lease like shit. Residuals suck!

Nice car. Congrats and enjoy.

I always get turned off when I see AMG residuals, although I haven’t gotten to the point of that much discount to make up for a low residual. If you don’t mind my asking, what is the residual % / miles on your lease? (MB / AMG sometimes beats on MF, but not enough to make up residual.). I wouldn’t mind giving AMG a try.

[Naz24]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

Nice car. Congrats and enjoy.

I always get turned off when I see AMG residuals, although I haven't gotten to the point of that much discount to make up for a low residual. If you don't mind my asking, what is the residual % / miles on your lease? (MB / AMG sometimes beats on MF, but not enough to make up residual.). I wouldn't mind giving AMG a try.

Sure. The residual is 53% on 10k miles. Payment was just around 1k with 4K due at signing.

MSRP: 85,650
Sale price: 70,200

[Golfster]

Congrats and enjoy.

[Draper]

Originally Posted by dkhm3

you got the pre face lift? did you see what the changes they did?

merc does this all the time, make massive changes mid cycle and then we owners take massive depreciation. ask me how i know.

after 2 of them, i would never buy another merc again, lease maybe.

check out the new tft displays on the steering wheel controls- 16:00

Maybe it's just a poor quality vid, but those displays look like shit.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by Naz24

Sure. The residual is 53% on 10k miles. Payment was just around 1k with 4K due at signing.

MSRP: 85,650
Sale price: 70,200

That's not as bad as I've seen on some AMGs. 10k miles helps keep it reasonable. I'm looking at ordering an F83 and it works out to a little more than you are paying with 12k miles.

[Naz24]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

That's not as bad as I've seen on some AMGs. 10k miles helps keep it reasonable. I'm looking at ordering an F83 and it works out to a little more than you are paying with 12k miles.

My F83 was going to be just about the same payment. If you want a 6MT mineral on full sakhir, fully loaded, it's coming in 3 weeks lol.

[RowanBuds]

Thought I saw that on Insta - congrats man, hope you're thrilled with it. Looks great and sounds mean as hell. Look forward to seeing it around this summer.

[baege]

I am considering the c63 (sedan likely) as a next move from my m240i. I test drove a C63S coupe last night. I did not walk away with that I have to make this switch now feeling. The other current competitors for next car are RCF and 991.1.

what I liked:
immense power and torque, made my m240i feel slow
great sound
beautiful car
nice interior


what left me unimpressed:
still feel turbo lag (minimal admittedly, but it's there)
the sound is amazing but still cant rival NA sound
it feels big and visibility is poor compared to m240i
the ride is rough even in comfort mode


I would love to hear your impressions now that you've had the car for a while

[AlexZTuned]

Originally Posted by baege

I am considering the c63 (sedan likely) as a next move from my m240i. I test drove a C63S coupe last night. I did not walk away with that I have to make this switch now feeling. The other current competitors for next car are RCF and 991.1.

what I liked:
immense power and torque, made my m240i feel slow
great sound
beautiful car
nice interior


what left me unimpressed:
still feel turbo lag (minimal admittedly, but it's there)
the sound is amazing but still cant rival NA sound
it feels big and visibility is poor compared to m240i
the ride is rough even in comfort mode


I would love to hear your impressions now that you've had the car for a while

I've owned a 2017 C63S Coupe since launch (late 2016) and will say overall it's a fantastic car. I test drove the F80/F82 M3/M4 before the C63S and walked away really underwhelmed having come from a Cobb tuned N54 335i. It sounded much worse than the 335i (actually really irritating to my ears), and couldn't get over how low rent the interior felt compared to the new C63S. I loved the exterior of the M3/M4 though.

At the end of the day, it was the V8 power and sound that won me over. I also absolutely love the way the C63S Coupe looks with the wide body (I'm not a huge fan of the sedan's narrow body). It's really a car you need to see in person to appreciate how bulgy those front and rear fenders are.

After owning the C63S Coupe for a few years, the biggest inherent flaw I've discovered is (not surprisingly) traction. The only mods I've done is a DINAN tune (600ish HP 650ish tq) and 305 PS4S rear tires to cope with the crazy low end stump pulling torque. It definitely keeps you on your toes with all that torque on tap... but that's to be expected with any high horsepower RWD car with a traditional front engine/trans layout.

The other major issue with the C63S is the weight. On a positive note, this car really handles really well (the best handling car I've owned), and somehow feels like it's 500 lbs less than it really is. On the street, at 7/10's, it feels every bit as capable as the M4. But once you begin to start to reach the limits of the tires around corners and push hard, you start to feel those 2+ tons. It has great steering feel and you can feel the e-diff working in a predictable way, but I wouldn't describe the handling as razor sharp or agile.

With that said, I don't regret purchasing the C63S. However, I've already decided for my next car that it will need be be a mid-engine or rear-engine if it's RWD. These modern front engine RWD cars are really at the limit with the amount of power they put down on street tires. I'm not interested in running DR's, R888R's, or Cup 2's on a daily.

A pre-owned Porsche 991.2 is looking more and more like my next replacement with that tuner friendly 3.0L turbo flat-6. I really want to buy a bargain base 991.2 C2 or C4 and have fun modifying it to Turbo S levels!

[baege]

Originally Posted by AlexZTuned

I've owned a 2017 C63S Coupe since launch (late 2016) and will say overall it's a fantastic car. I test drove the F80/F82 M3/M4 before the C63S and walked away really underwhelmed having come from a Cobb tuned N54 335i. It sounded much worse than the 335i (actually really irritating to my ears), and couldn't get over how low rent the interior felt compared to the new C63S. I loved the exterior of the M3/M4 though.

At the end of the day, it was the V8 power and sound that won me over. I also absolutely love the way the C63S Coupe looks with the wide body (I'm not a huge fan of the sedan's narrow body). It's really a car you need to see in person to appreciate how bulgy those front and rear fenders are.

After owning the C63S Coupe for a few years, the biggest inherent flaw I've discovered is (not surprisingly) traction. The only mods I've done is a DINAN tune (600ish HP 650ish tq) and 305 PS4S rear tires to cope with the crazy low end stump pulling torque. It definitely keeps you on your toes with all that torque on tap... but that's to be expected with any high horsepower RWD car with a traditional front engine/trans layout.

The other major issue with the C63S is the weight. On a positive note, this car really handles really well (the best handling car I've owned), and somehow feels like it's 500 lbs less than it really is. On the street, at 7/10's, it feels every bit as capable as the M4. But once you begin to start to reach the limits of the tires around corners and push hard, you start to feel those 2+ tons. It has great steering feel and you can feel the e-diff working in a predictable way, but I wouldn't describe the handling as razor sharp or agile.

With that said, I don't regret purchasing the C63S. However, I've already decided for my next car that it will need be be a mid-engine or rear-engine if it's RWD. These modern front engine RWD cars are really at the limit with the amount of power they put down on street tires. I'm not interested in running DR's, R888R's, or Cup 2's on a daily.

A pre-owned Porsche 991.2 is looking more and more like my next replacement with that tuner friendly 3.0L turbo flat-6. I really want to buy a bargain base 991.2 C2 or C4 and have fun modifying it to Turbo S levels!

thanks for thoughts, what did you come from before the c63?
was the m3/m4 the only other car you were considering at the time?

[AlexZTuned]

Originally Posted by baege

thanks for thoughts, what did you come from before the c63?
was the m3/m4 the only other car you were considering at the time?

M3/M4 was at the top of my list, but I was also interested in the Alfa. Never did drive the Alfa and was scared away by journalists’ poor reliability stories.

Before the C63S, I had a Cobb tuned 09’ 335i (6MT). Before that, a 2001 Audi S4 (built engine, ~600whp), E39 BMW 540i (6MT, I loved this car), 2003 Lexus IS300 (single turbo kit, 380ish whp, automatic).

[Ian1973]

15k is a huge amount off. I don't know if I like the exterior without roof, but the interior is gorgeous. Congrats!

[JibSTir13]

The coupe looks so much better than the sedan when it comes to the C63.

If I were in the market for a coupe and the lack of a manual transmission were not a deal breaker, the C63S coupe would be a strong contender.

[danniexi]

Originally Posted by dkhm3

check out the new tft displays on the steering wheel controls- 16:00

that is the greatest thing i have ever seen. makes the F80 interior look like a bloody geo metro.

[Tazmn Jr]

It must be the C63 convertible dealers are willing to discount. I was offered a similar discount of 10k off in December of 2017 on a MY 2017 because the manager said the convertible weren't moving. Need I say I still went with a 2017 M3 F80. The wife already had a c300 convertible MY 2018, that may have something to do with my final decision.

[Padfan9]

Originally Posted by Naz24

Well --

The test drive got the best of me. I went to the local merc dealer to check out a leftover 2017 C63 Cab they had in stock. Took it for a spin and was absolutely mesmerized by the engine note, interior quality, and general feeling.

I had an F83 on order (without a deposit) and it was expected to be delivered in 2 weeks. Merc knew this and took 15K off the MSRP of the 63 to convert me to an AMG buyer.

Unfortunately, the car has been with my clear film installer since, so i've only gotten about 50 miles of drive time. So far i'm impressed, but after coming from 6 BMW's in a row, i'm a bit uneasy about it so far. Some buyer's remorse, but i think this is going to actually be a great car to own.

Anyone else make the switch?

Just test drove the C63S and that's all I can think about....

[aajjcc]

Wow the facelift on the c63 is stunning. In terms of noise, I prefer the motorsport sound of the M3/M4 over the merc. All the new AMG cars sound the same - a deep muffled flutter with crackles and pops.

[Naz24]

Originally Posted by Padfan9

Just test drove the C63S and that's all I can think about....

Did you drive the facelift?

After having the car 8 months my biggest complaint is honestly the COMAND system, i believe the new system is far superior and works better.

Go for it.

[Funf6cyl]

Originally Posted by aajjcc

Wow the facelift on the c63 is stunning. In terms of noise, I prefer the motorsport sound of the M3/M4 over the merc. All the new AMG cars sound the same - a deep muffled flutter with crackles and pops.

I love the AMG 4.0 TT It sounds incredible and sings the way no current M motor can even come close to matching. It is better sounding than the S65. It just makes all the right noises. I couldn’t stand the sound of my F8x M3 and M4 and was part of the reason for selling them.

[Powerslide]

Originally Posted by Funf6cyl

I love the AMG 4.0 TT It sounds incredible and sings the way no current M motor can even come close to matching. It is better sounding than the S65. It just makes all the right noises. I couldn’t stand the sound of my F8x M3 and M4 and was part of the reason for selling them.

Sorry to hear you have yet another negative comment about the F8x (can't say anyone here is really surprised though...)

Have you considered the F90 M5? It's really received positive reviews (especially compared to the Panamera Turbo...)??