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      04-30-2019, 10:29 PM   #23
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I haven't posted on here a ton but I've probably read 80-90% of the threads since buying my initial 325i in 2000 (I think) followed by my 335i to my F10 535i, my E90 M3 and finally my F80 M3 CP. Let me just say that I've wanted a 911 in some form for over 20 years but BMWs have always shared a special place in my heart for a number of reasons so I've been brand loyal for a very long time, until now. I would also like to add that this site has been extremely helpful and I've enjoyed the overall supportive nature of the group.

After having the drive shaft and DCT in my F80 implode a while back, I knew my time with BMW was limited. I entertained a C63s Coupe, Audi RS5 and just about every option available within that price bracket (there's not much) when I finally decided to make the move to Porsche via a CPO 2017 C4S in Agate Grey with 12,000 miles. I had originally convinced myself to keep the F80 until I could find a 2nd or 3rd year 992 CPO in 3-4 years but after driving the 991.2 C4S it was game over. The M3's power deliver is definitely more brutal due to the torque but the Porsche is still plenty fast (or faster in some cases) but in a more refined way which I enjoy (the PDK is amazing in auto or any of the manual settings). As I told my sales guy after a few days, the BMW felt like it was on the road but the Porsche feels like it's with the road...cheesy I know but it's the only way I can explain it. Just crazy.

Thanks to all of you that have commented on one of my posts, sold me something or bought something from me. You guys have developed a tremendous platform/community that I will miss. Take care! A few pics attached.

Well done, and gorgeous color!

BTW....I am pretty sure that I saw you turning onto Frontier the other day?

Do you recall seeing a San Marino Blue M3 CS?
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Somehow the only look for the Porsche that grew on me and I love is the GT3 and the 911 Turbo. The GT3 especially completes the look front to back starting with the lip all the way to the back with the integrated wing. Never found the 911 and 911S that nice looking. They look classy in an old fashioned way but not aggressive like the GT3. Just my take.
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2019 991.2 GTS. It replaced my F80 M3.
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Agree the 911 is the pinnacle of German, and maybe automotive engine.

My 991.2S.
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Thanks. Yes it’s a wild color. No one touches Porsche when it comes to blue colors or greens.

Below was at a track day at the Poconos with its cousin Macan GTS in Miami Blue.
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I haven't posted on here a ton but I've probably read 80-90% of the threads since buying my initial 325i in 2000 (I think) followed by my 335i to my F10 535i, my E90 M3 and finally my F80 M3 CP. Let me just say that I've wanted a 911 in some form for over 20 years but BMWs have always shared a special place in my heart for a number of reasons so I've been brand loyal for a very long time, until now. I would also like to add that this site has been extremely helpful and I've enjoyed the overall supportive nature of the group.

After having the drive shaft and DCT in my F80 implode a while back, I knew my time with BMW was limited. I entertained a C63s Coupe, Audi RS5 and just about every option available within that price bracket (there's not much) when I finally decided to make the move to Porsche via a CPO 2017 C4S in Agate Grey with 12,000 miles. I had originally convinced myself to keep the F80 until I could find a 2nd or 3rd year 992 CPO in 3-4 years but after driving the 991.2 C4S it was game over. The M3's power deliver is definitely more brutal due to the torque but the Porsche is still plenty fast (or faster in some cases) but in a more refined way which I enjoy (the PDK is amazing in auto or any of the manual settings). As I told my sales guy after a few days, the BMW felt like it was on the road but the Porsche feels like it's with the road...cheesy I know but it's the only way I can explain it. Just crazy.

Thanks to all of you that have commented on one of my posts, sold me something or bought something from me. You guys have developed a tremendous platform/community that I will miss. Take care! A few pics attached.

Well done, and gorgeous color!

BTW....I am pretty sure that I saw you turning onto Frontier the other day?

Do you recall seeing a San Marino Blue M3 CS?
That was probably me. I've seen you around too...great looking car. There seems to be more M3 ZCPs running around Prosper recently. Also had a really fun run in with a white GT3 and a Agate Grey GT2 (prior version not the RS). Gotta love living in an area with fun back roads!
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I jumped back to Porsche too.

2019 991.2 GTS. It replaced my F80 M3.
That thing is HOT!! Congrats man!
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That was probably me. I've seen you around too...great looking car. There seems to be more M3 ZCPs running around Prosper recently. Also had a really fun run in with a white GT3 and a Agate Grey GT2 (prior version not the RS). Gotta love living in an area with fun back roads!
Ha! I thought so and thank you sir

Yeah, I have mostly only gotten attention from some Mustang owners, and a guy in a Camaro ZL1 while stuck in bumper to bumper traffic on 75 the other day. Oh and of course the occasional Hyundai Elantra/F1 driving idiot..... whyyy?

I'm still new to the area, so if you have any good roads to recommend I'm all ears
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Ha! I thought so and thank you sir

Yeah, I have mostly only gotten attention from some Mustang owners, and a guy in a Camaro ZL1 while stuck in bumper to bumper traffic on 75 the other day. Oh and of course the occasional Hyundai Elantra/F1 driving idiot..... whyyy?

I'm still new to the area, so if you have any good roads to recommend I'm all ears
Sorry bro . . . that is about all that is out there that will actually recognize and give 2 shytes about a new M3.
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The P-car bug bit me as well, heres my 2019 TTS I received back in October.
I can't say that I miss my M4 all that much.
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The P-car bug bit me as well, heres my 2019 TTS I received back in October.
I can't say that I miss my M4 all that much.
Lol for three times the price of an M4, I sure hope not! Beautiful car though! Waiting on my delivery of my TTS Cab.

OP, congrats, beautiful looking car. Agree with your experience. The F8X's are great cars, but at certain limits you lose confidence in the vehicles. The F80 DCT also had a slight lag from a stop which scared the shit out of me once or twice since I'd pull onto a highway (yes from a stop sign) and I'd floor it but nothing would happen for a second or so then all of a sudden you're at 100MPH. Definitely far less predictable as others have stated.
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I'm actually thinking of selling my F80M CP and making the P jump as well...

TBH the M blows the Porsche car out of the water in terms of torque/power, but I can tell the Porsche GT3 would really shine in my local mountains (Angeles Crest) or any local track. I've been driving my buddies 997.2 GT3 and when he bought it ,we drove down in my F80. I drove the GT3 back home and instantly noticed it's lack of power, but it's N/A. The power delivery is all at the top. The M's low end torque is instant! I did notice when in the upper rev range in the GT3, that thing pulls.. The Porsche is a more track focused car from the factory and the M is more civil, granted it has loads of power.

I'm looking at 997.1 GT3/991.1 S cars right now. The 997 GT3 cars are super rowdy and I can't see any Girlfriend wanting to ride inside. My buddy has the GMG oval exhaust and you can hear that car a block away. The good thing about Porsche cars, is the availability of parts and shops that can work on any year of the cars.

The 997 GT3 cars are very purposeful though. Not the kind of car you can daily, run errands or even casually drive around. It requires so much attention with the gear box and clutch situation. That being said, I would love to have one for a weekend squirt up the highway kind of car. Drive up to the mountains.



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The 997 GT3 cars are super rowdy and I can't see any Girlfriend wanting to ride inside. My buddy has the GMG oval exhaust and you can hear that car a block away. The good thing about Porsche cars, is the availability of parts and shops that can work on any year of the cars.

The 997 GT3 cars are very purposeful though. Not the kind of car you can daily, run errands or even casually drive around. It requires so much attention with the gear box and clutch situation. That being said, I would love to have one for a weekend squirt up the highway kind of car. Drive up to the mountains.
Hi, I have a light flywheel and Sachs 2.5 clutch in my old 911 and it’s fine to drive daily. You’ll get used to it.

One thing you need to keep in mind is that porsche tax is real. Parts are stupidly expensive. And not sure where you live but here in Bay Area, there is a 6-8 month waitlist to get your car into the most highly regarded shops, and you will pay top dollar for labor.

You are seeing the great side only of porsche since you borrow one from your friend and go play. Keep in mind that when it’s your car you will be paying to play for those cup 2 tires, the larger amount of synthetic oil used each service, and the sack of $$ you will drop if anything happens (eg blow up 1st gear from too much power).

I love having one, and it’s super fun, but my brand new full warranty f80 was a way better value, and could have been modded with more tire and better exhaust to be pretty close to as fun.
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Hi, I have a light flywheel and Sachs 2.5 clutch in my old 911 and it’s fine to drive daily. You’ll get used to it.

One thing you need to keep in mind is that porsche tax is real. Parts are stupidly expensive. And not sure where you live but here in Bay Area, there is a 6-8 month waitlist to get your car into the most highly regarded shops, and you will pay top dollar for labor.

You are seeing the great side only of porsche since you borrow one from your friend and go play. Keep in mind that when it’s your car you will be paying to play for those cup 2 tires, the larger amount of synthetic oil used each service, and the sack of $$ you will drop if anything happens (eg blow up 1st gear from too much power).

I love having one, and it’s super fun, but my brand new full warranty f80 was a way better value, and could have been modded with more tire and better exhaust to be pretty close to as fun.
Yeah, I'm at 2.6k miles and just had a nail removed from one of my rear tires- I'm at 1/2 tread life left (5/32).

lol, that's a record for me, ill need new rears at 5k miles at this rate. Gotta pay to play.
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Right now my cars are F80M CP and a TDI Golf Sportwagen Manual.

Even though the F80M is a blast of power when I get in it, the TDI is equal in comfort. That's not a bad thing, but it would be nice to have something rowdy.. Also the reason why I've been looking at 991.1 S cars. Not super rowdy and the somewhat comfort of the F80M. Some say it's a lateral move from the F80M to 991.1 Carrera S car, and even lesser power.

In LA there are a billion Porsche shops, some better than others. A majority of my immediate circle are all P car owners and getting something fixed wouldn't be an issue, until I got the bill! Blowing up a Mezger doesn't sound like it would be a fun invoice to receive... Probably why you see some cars sitting at shops for years. Guys trying to come up with the money to pay that bill!

How come Porsche guys never buy Pilots Sports 4S tires? Sizing issue? Cup 2's sound great and all, but R compound on the streets are good and sticky, but they wear SUPER fast.
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991.2 911's oem is either the Pirelli P Zero or the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S.

Also, I wouldn't say the 991.1 S is a lateral move from the F80, F80 is faster, but tbh the 911 handling is leagues above the f80, i mean it is purpose built vs starting out as a passenger car.
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A majority of my immediate circle are all P car owners and getting something fixed wouldn't be an issue, until I got the bill! Blowing up a Mezger doesn't sound like it would be a fun invoice to receive...
Just my $0.02, with all your friends who own pcar, get an older Gt3 with known history and fully sorted and fully maintained when one of your friends steps up to newer one, rather than a newer non GT car

Set of ps4s is $1.3k, set of cup 2 is $1.5k. If it’s not your daily why not get more grip.

Feedback I have gotten is that if you keep up on maintenance, don’t rev it up while cold, and don’t use a bad tune (and put a hole in the block), then Mezger engine is bomb proof. I’m not too about worried mine since I am only on a 1.2bar conservative off the shelf tune
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Just my $0.02, with all your friends who own pcar, get an older Gt3 with known history and fully sorted and fully maintained when one of your friends steps up to newer one, rather than a newer non GT car
997.1 GT3's are falling under $90k.. I've seen some pretty good examples in the 80's which isn't back breaking in price...

Thanks for the advice.
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If I was going to buy a porsche, I would skip older GT3's and go straight to a 991.2.

The 991.2 911 S murders the F8X M3/M4 in every single aspect. I know I had both. I would not buy a 997 or even a 991.1 GT3 when pricing on the 991.2's is obtainable. The few 991.2 GT3 guys I know always talk about lack of torque in there GT3's. So to me, the 991.2 is the best 911 platform out.

I got my 2019 991.2 GTS for close to 20K off MSRP since the baby panamera 992 911 is coming soon. If you going to buy one, Id vote for 991.2, S or GTS all day long. The 911 S 991.2 is no joke. And totally affordable if shopping in p car territory.
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i've been toying with the idea of dumping my 458 for a 991.2 gt3 for a while. Just hard to part ways with the supercar looks and v8 soundtrack. But having that porsche build quality piece of mind is nice too. my ferrari is nearly 10 years old now and unfortunately cars age and things wear.

might wait on the 992 gt3 specs to be announced first.
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If I was going to buy a porsche, I would skip older GT3's and go straight to a 991.2.

The 991.2 911 S murders the F8X M3/M4 in every single aspect. I know I had both. I would not buy a 997 or even a 991.1 GT3 when pricing on the 991.2's is obtainable. The few 991.2 GT3 guys I know always talk about lack of torque in there GT3's. So to me, the 991.2 is the best 911 platform out.

I got my 2019 991.2 GTS for close to 20K off MSRP since the baby panamera 992 911 is coming soon. If you going to buy one, Id vote for 991.2, S or GTS all day long. The 911 S 991.2 is no joke. And totally affordable if shopping in p car territory.
Looking to make the same move into 991.2 GTS. Haven't seen a deal on 20k below from a dealer here but the search is on to find the right one
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Looking to make the same move into 991.2 GTS. Haven't seen a deal on 20k below from a dealer here but the search is on to find the right one
My 2019 911 GTS was purchased USED with 511 miles on it. That's how I got close to 20K off.

At the time of purchase the 992 release was hyped and I used that to bargain. Why would anyone buy a end of life model when the new one is SO much better??? is what I would tell them when negotiating.

I know a few people at a few dealers down here in Socal if you are seriously looking. PM me if you want to pick their brain on deals they might have.
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