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YAOT - Yet Another Oil Thread
I've got about 4K on my '18 M3C.
Will be changing oil every 5K. Will any of these BMW LL-01 oils be proper for a Florida climate or should I pony up for the official BMW branded Twin Turbo 0W-30 LL-01 oil (which is almost DOUBLE the cost)? Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W-30 (Can't find this for sale anywhere) Pentosin Pento High Performance 5W-30 https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...11427854445kt4 Does anyone know who makes the BMW dealership oil? Last edited by noone; 01-12-2020 at 03:07 PM.. |
01-11-2020, 03:34 PM | #2 |
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I would go Liqui Moly or Pentosin. Pennzoil euro formula is good as well from what I have heard. I believe Pennzoil / Shell is the OE supplier for BMW oil.
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https://www.shell-livedocs.com/data/...bb117dc6d7.pdf How come I can't find any BMW LL-01 0W-30 oil? |
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01-11-2020, 09:17 PM | #10 |
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So are you saying that more oil brands outside of BMW labeled offer LL01FE than LL01? That does not appear to be the case from the hour or so of wasted research time I have spent on this. I only see LL-01.
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01-11-2020, 10:12 PM | #11 |
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No. They’re stating that it’s hard to find LL01 anymore. BMW even switched to LL01FE
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01-12-2020, 09:08 AM | #13 |
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To each his own but I’m a firm believer in LiquiMoly over the BMW branded oil. Either their 5w30 special Tec or 5w40 Leichtlauf. FCP Euro have a great kit that makes everything as simple as possible.
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Is the bmw approval is very important to you than your options are limited to the BMW branded oil or a very few others that still carry the LL01 approval. Personally, I use Castrol 0w40 which up until very recently did carry the LL01 approval (no longer does) but still carries the approval from every other German manufacturer (Porsche, Merc, VW). It's a fantastic all around oil and can be found anywhere for a low price. |
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Why not use the Castrol Edge 0W-30 A3/B4 oil? (Edit, I guess they don't sell it anymore and these guys are saying 0W-40 is closest. https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...ing-edge-0w-30) I agree with you and am looking for an easily locally available oil that is appropriate for every 5K oil changes. And I'm not hung up on LL-01. I guess the A3/B4 rating is more important. I'm not really looking at Pentosin or Liqui Moly or Motu now since the cost of those is not much less than the dealership oil. I'll just buy the dealership oil in this case. I guess my choice then is BMW oil or Castrol Edge 0w-40. 1 oil change using BMW oil = $63 or 2 oil changes with Castrol for $75. + tax. Side question that is related- Do the Mann oil filters come with the correct size crush washer? Last edited by noone; 01-12-2020 at 10:01 AM.. |
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As for Castrol 0w40, I use it because it has been somewhat of the "gold standard" of euro oils for many years. As I mentioned before it carried LL01 up until recently (still unclear why it no longer carries the approval) and every other major German approval. It has years of used oil analysis postings online in a variety of engines and operating conditions which prove it protects the engine well. Also, it's inexpensive ($25 or so for a 5qt jug at Walmart or amazon) and readily available. Also for filters I always use oem (usually order them off eBay). Mann and mahle should be absolutely fine though and come with whatever gaskets and washers are needed. |
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FWIW, I still use the BMW M 0W-40 LL01 oil every 5k miles (currently at 46k+ miles now). A bit harder to find as BMW no longer makes it, but there are some stashes here and there...
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01-12-2020, 02:57 PM | #18 |
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Great dialogue.
Regarding oil filters, I believe Mann is in fact the OEM for the oil filters? Gatorfast, can you take a look at one of your BMW filters and tell me off it says Mann Filter on the edge? http://www.ecstuning.com/product_lib...lter%20Kit.jpg Last edited by noone; 01-12-2020 at 03:03 PM.. |
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