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      02-06-2020, 01:00 PM   #23
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The adjuster is at the bottom of the assembly now so you have to take the wheel off and adjust with the supplied C Spanner.
The video shows the front adjuster being at the top of the strut. When you say "now" in your message above, does that mean it has changed from the initial install shown in the video and the adjuster now sits on the lower spring perch?

If it were at the top, it looks like making and adjustment would mean taking off the strut nut and lowering the shock. Just trying to better understand the adjustability of the front.

Thanks!! Ill shoot you a note to the email above as well.
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I inquired about the springs as well. Via email.
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      02-07-2020, 03:48 AM   #25
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The video shows the front adjuster being at the top of the strut. When you say "now" in your message above, does that mean it has changed from the initial install shown in the video and the adjuster now sits on the lower spring perch?

If it were at the top, it looks like making and adjustment would mean taking off the strut nut and lowering the shock. Just trying to better understand the adjustability of the front.

Thanks!! Ill shoot you a note to the email above as well.
Yes we requested it to be moved during the end of development and the new parts have just started shipping with any kits ordered now. We made the video a couple of weeks ago.

Look forward to your impressions on this kit.
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* Fits into stock spring location so no modifications required to fit.
* Rear spring assembly has 3 different spring rates allowing superior ride comfort and handling.
* 0-30mm lowering - allows you to run at stock ride height if you just want to improve handling.
I didnt know that aftermarket springs requires modifications to fit.
What modifications are needed for other spring options?
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His comments that you quoted do not make any claims that aftermarket springs require modifications. The statement simply says that his product fits into stock spring locations so no modifications are required. What makes you think he was referring to other springs?
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I didnt know that aftermarket springs requires modifications to fit.
What modifications are needed for other spring options?
MP HAS and KW HAS you have to hammer off the perch to create a coilover. In this kit the spinner sits in the stock front cup.
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      02-07-2020, 03:53 PM   #29
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MP HAS and KW HAS you have to hammer off the perch to create a coilover. In this kit the spinner sits in the stock front cup.
Why would they do that? Is there an advantage?
I'd think bmw would design these for the best fit?
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      02-07-2020, 06:10 PM   #30
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So it combines a tender spring with a main spring to create a variable spring rate. Nothing special and certainly nothing new. Any existing coilover and HAS setup can add a tender spring + shorter main spring and create their own variable (and known) spring rates.
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MP HAS and KW HAS you have to hammer off the perch to create a coilover. In this kit the spinner sits in the stock front cup.
This is one of the differences between MSS and KW/BMW HAS when I refer to no modifications required to fit.
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So it combines a tender spring with a main spring to create a variable spring rate. Nothing special and certainly nothing new. Any existing coilover and HAS setup can add a tender spring + shorter main spring and create their own variable (and known) spring rates.

Yes they could but do they currently? Also the main MSS spring is formed of 2 different spring rates which means it has 3 spring rates on the rear.

That type spring was developed by MSS with the help of Eibach over a number of years.
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UK guys are starting to fit and experience this kit for themselves.

Here is a review:

https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...review.222370/
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      02-10-2020, 08:55 AM   #34
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UK guys are starting to fit and experience this kit for themselves.

Here is a review:

https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...review.222370/
When/where can we get this kit?
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      02-10-2020, 11:19 AM   #35
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Yes they could but do they currently? Also the main MSS spring is formed of 2 different spring rates which means it has 3 spring rates on the rear.

That type spring was developed by MSS with the help of Eibach over a number of years.
It’s something easily added and only requires a tender spring, main spring and spring coupler - fairly cheap option for an existing setup. The other advantage is you can specify the dual-rate for your specific application, not someone else’s unknown range of rates. So in this case they designed a dual-rate tender spring that has two different “solid heights”. The spring stiffness of springs in series isn’t additive, instead the spring rate decreases as you add more springs in series (e.g., use two main springs with the same rate in series and the combined stiffness is 50% of the individual main spring rate. Drops even faster with three springs in series). They must be using some really high individual spring rates if they’re shooting for a useable stiffness range that’s known to work well on the rear of the F8x - soft to stiff street range - and have useable range of motion for each of the three rates. What are the individual range of motion for each of the three rates? Looking at the tender spring, I’d say it’s ~2” and ~1 in before it hits its solid block height (ignoring spring compression due to static weight carried by each corner). The rate of the remaining only active main spring is likely really stiff at this point.
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When/where can we get this kit?
Its available and in stock now. We can supply it. Shoot us an email on sales@evolveautomotive.com
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Its available and in stock now. We can supply it. Shoot us an email on sales@evolveautomotive.com
Just sent email.
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Can you post a video of how to adjust height after initial install?
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I'm considering this or dinan kit.
How are they different?
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I’m interested in this kit as well. Looks like a great option.
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Why do mp and has use a sleeve and mss doesn't?
What is the advantage of doing so?
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Why do mp and has use a sleeve and mss doesn't?
What is the advantage of doing so?
Because MSS figured a way of doing it without a sleeve. Makes fitting and reversal much easier.
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Imran, thanks for providing the link to m3cutters for some feedback. I plan to order a set of these springs (sport version for my M3) from your firm in the next day or so.
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I ordered a set. Will post my feedback this spring after I install and put some miles on.
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