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      05-21-2022, 11:40 PM   #17711
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So... totally out of the blue, my local Porsche dealership emailed me to say that I have a 911 GTS allocation, for early September delivery (at MSRP!)

After nearly 2 years, I had been assuming this would never happen... so now I need to take a crash course in 911 configuration! (and apparently spend the next 3 months staring at an app on my phone wondering when the baby is going to arrive)

Would greatly appreciate any advice on 'must have' and 'don't waste your money' options from others who have recently defected from BMW!
First … congrats!

Second … went on P site to build one quickly. Started going thru options … holly shit total insanity! Came to Board Briefcase Leather - are you kidding me … and quit!

Making gin and tonic … man gl but they are insane!!
Yeah… I built up to 165k without blinking but I been spoiled by PCCBs so, that's the other reason haha.

The rear light option is pretty neat though hehe.
agree rear lights are neat like blacklines but that usb stick in the console not so much
There is a difference. The clear tail lights are alllllmost the same as the Exclusive Design tail lights, but they are different. The ED tail lights have additional lighting elements and LED side gills that light up.
I kinda wish the GT4 had the entire rear light bar light up too instead of it being just for cosmetic purposes.
Does the GT4 have an ED tail light option?
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Does the GT4 have an ED tail light option?
Nope.

It is purely cosmetic and there is no light there. It is a design that kinda copies what the other Porsche car design has been recently.

It is literally just a see through glass there, nothing else haha.
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Does the GT4 have an ED tail light option?
Nope.

It is purely cosmetic and there is no light there. It is a design that kinda copies what the other Porsche car design has been recently.

It is literally just a see through glass there, nothing else haha.
Now I need to search for photos of the GT4 tail lights. Lol!
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      05-22-2022, 06:58 AM   #17715
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Now that's a threesome I would watch.

Still kicking myself for not having the cojones in 2013 to buy that late-model E46 M3 I was looking at when shopping for six-cylinder E82 1 Series'.

6-speed slick-top in Imola Red over M Texture Alcantara with 21k miles.

Got the 135i instead for similar money. But I didn't know any better back then. And I'm starting to think I should've gotten a 125i with the N52 instead, to have an N/A BMW for once. E82 Ms were also out of reach back then.

P.S.: Had a trackday this week and some guy arrived in a genuine E46 CSL. I obviously had to ask him the stupid "is it real?" question which he has probably heard many times. Well-worn example with 100k miles and the best car there that day... Porsches have become so ubiquitous even in my neck of the woods that I look past them now. More new GT P-cars than M3s nowadays. Funny that no one ever comes in a 996 or 997. Always a PDK 991/992/718.
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I would say it depends on what you are going for. Understated or something visually more aggressive. I like both for different reasons but if I got the duckbill I think I would always look at the wing and wonder. If the duckbill was more pronounced like the new Sport Classic then I would go that route.
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I would say it depends on what you are going for. Understated or something visually more aggressive. I like both for different reasons but if I got the duckbill I think I would always look at the wing and wonder. If the duckbill was more pronounced like the new Sport Classic then I would go that route.
Thanks for the opinion.

I like both for different reasons as well and I really like the Sport Classic duckbill as well. The SC duckbill is aggressive in a way that I feel I might need to mod my car to be able to pull it off. I could get away with the other two wings with my car in its current state.
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Now that's a threesome I would watch.

Still kicking myself for not having the cojones in 2013 to buy that late-model E46 M3 I was looking at when shopping for six-cylinder E82 1 Series'.

6-speed slick-top in Imola Red over M Texture Alcantara with 21k miles.

Got the 135i instead for similar money. But I didn't know any better back then. And I'm starting to think I should've gotten a 125i with the N52 instead, to have an N/A BMW for once. E82 Ms were also out of reach back then.

P.S.: Had a trackday this week and some guy arrived in a genuine E46 CSL. I obviously had to ask him the stupid "is it real?" question which he has probably heard many times. Well-worn example with 100k miles and the best car there that day... Porsches have become so ubiquitous even in my neck of the woods that I look past them now. More new GT P-cars than M3s nowadays. Funny that no one ever comes in a 996 or 997. Always a PDK 991/992/718.
Drove the E46 - perfect canyon car. You can get thru a lot of revs before you’re going way too fast and it has a nice small footprint. Had to work for the speed which was nice for a change lol. F80 you can be in any gear; just press the go-pedal and you’re doing 100 before you know it. The E46 also isn’t as sure footed, which is nice because you *feel* like you’re riding the limits much quicker.

The big surprise to me was that I preferred my car’s current steering. CS on G80 * spec Cup 2s is incredible. Loads of detail, extremely precise, and more confidence inspiring at speed. I found the E46 steering rack to be light & loose, and at speed it wasn’t as confidence inspiring to me. It had that hydraulic elasticity which is usually missing from EPS systems, but the Cup 2s brought that back to the CS as well. It was a nice sanity check because I haven’t driven hydraulic in a while but I thought the steering on my car was really great so this just validated that thought. Now if you put Cup 2s on the E46… that could be a whole ‘nother story.
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Now that's a threesome I would watch.

Still kicking myself for not having the cojones in 2013 to buy that late-model E46 M3 I was looking at when shopping for six-cylinder E82 1 Series'.

6-speed slick-top in Imola Red over M Texture Alcantara with 21k miles.

Got the 135i instead for similar money. But I didn't know any better back then. And I'm starting to think I should've gotten a 125i with the N52 instead, to have an N/A BMW for once. E82 Ms were also out of reach back then.

P.S.: Had a trackday this week and some guy arrived in a genuine E46 CSL. I obviously had to ask him the stupid "is it real?" question which he has probably heard many times. Well-worn example with 100k miles and the best car there that day... Porsches have become so ubiquitous even in my neck of the woods that I look past them now. More new GT P-cars than M3s nowadays. Funny that no one ever comes in a 996 or 997. Always a PDK 991/992/718.
Drove the E46 - perfect canyon car. You can get thru a lot of revs before you’re going way too fast and it has a nice small footprint. Had to work for the speed which was nice for a change lol. F80 you can be in any gear; just press the go-pedal and you’re doing 100 before you know it. The E46 also isn’t as sure footed, which is nice because you *feel* like you’re riding the limits much quicker.

The big surprise to me was that I preferred my car’s current steering. CS on G80 * spec Cup 2s is incredible. Loads of detail, extremely precise, and more confidence inspiring at speed. I found the E46 steering rack to be light & loose, and at speed it wasn’t as confidence inspiring me. It had that hydraulic elasticity which is usually missing from EPS systems, but the Cup 2s brought that back to the CS as well. It was a nice sanity check because I haven’t driven hydraulic in a while but I thought the steering on my car was really great so this just validated that thought. Now if you put Cup 2s on the E46… that could be a whole ‘nother story.
Regarding steering - I'm sure I'd hate the old bus ratio of the E46.

My 135i has got Active Steering option, which is also hydraulic, and I adore the quick steering ratio. I'm also not as versed in hydraulic vs EPS, my E90 had EPS with Servotronic and I honestly couldn't tell shit.

I need to get the CS EPS coded on the F80. Got ghosted twice by kubax86 so need to find someone else any suggestions?
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I would say stick with the OEM spoiler. It probably does a better job aerodynamically than the fixed ones as the former was specifically designed for the base and the S.

I prefer the simplicity of OEM for the Carrera S whereas I would prefer the fixed wings on a GTS or a GT3.

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Regarding steering - I'm sure I'd hate the old bus ratio of the E46.

My 135i has got Active Steering option, which is also hydraulic, and I adore the quick steering ratio. I'm also not as versed in hydraulic vs EPS, my E90 had EPS with Servotronic and I honestly couldn't tell shit.

I need to get the CS EPS coded on the F80. Got ghosted twice by kubax86 so need to find someone else any suggestions?
Yeah its weird because the last two M3s I’ve driven (outside of mine) have been a E90 and E46, and I thought both of them were kind of loose and over assisted. I wouldn’t complain about having them, more so that if you told me those were EPS systems then I’d probably believe you.

The CS uses the GTS steering coding. I did GTS steering on my old M4 and it was a very positive improvement. Outside of that suspension, alignment, and tires will have a massive impact on steering feel as well. 0 toe and some camber on the GTS tune is very darty in a good way. Bummer about Kubax! Any coder should be able to do it though, it’s just a tick the box item on the firmware from what I understand. I’d definitely recommend it as the center dead spot is removed and the return to center is more apparent.
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Regarding steering - I'm sure I'd hate the old bus ratio of the E46.

My 135i has got Active Steering option, which is also hydraulic, and I adore the quick steering ratio. I'm also not as versed in hydraulic vs EPS, my E90 had EPS with Servotronic and I honestly couldn't tell shit.

I need to get the CS EPS coded on the F80. Got ghosted twice by kubax86 so need to find someone else any suggestions?
Yeah its weird because the last two M3s I’ve driven (outside of mine) have been a E90 and E46, and I thought both of them were kind of loose and over assisted. I wouldn’t complain about having them, more so that if you told me those were EPS systems then I’d probably believe you.

The CS uses the GTS steering coding. I did GTS steering on my old M4 and it was a very positive improvement. Outside of that suspension, alignment, and tires will have a massive impact on steering feel as well. 0 toe and some camber on the GTS tune is very darty in a good way. Bummer about Kubax! Any coder should be able to do it though, it’s just a tick the box item on the firmware from what I understand. I’d definitely recommend it as the center dead spot is removed and the return to center is more apparent.
Thanks. I had him do GTS DSC and GHAS two years ago, which were an improvement, and then this hidden EPS setup for cars that pull to the right. Now that it drives straight again, I want to try out the newer version of EPS.

I'm very limited in terms of tyres and jelly you've got the G8x Cup 2s. I can only run original Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Goodyear F1 Supersports, or Yokohama AD08 semis. I've had two sets of the Michelins, two sets of the Goodyears, and might give the Yokos a go once my current rubber goes bald.
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I would say stick with the OEM spoiler. It probably does a better job aerodynamically than the fixed ones as the former was specifically designed for the base and the S.

I prefer the simplicity of OEM for the Carrera S whereas I would prefer the fixed wings on a GTS or a GT3.

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The AeroKit wing was designed for the base and S as well (…and my car is equipped with the Sport Design kit which the AeroKit wing is part of), it was just unavailable due to the stop-sale. Suncoast is now offering the wing upgrade kit since Porsche has caught up [somewhat] with the supply chain issues. I'm also considering the GT3 duckbill retrofit, but it's three times the price of the AeroKit wing retrofit. I've never cared much for the active aero spoiler.
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Thanks. I had him do GTS DSC and GHAS two years ago, which were an improvement, and then this hidden EPS setup for cars that pull to the right. Now that it drives straight again, I want to try out the newer version of EPS.

I'm very limited in terms of tyres and jelly you've got the G8x Cup 2s. I can only run original Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Goodyear F1 Supersports, or Yokohama AD08 semis. I've had two sets of the Michelins, two sets of the Goodyears, and might give the Yokos a go once my current rubber goes bald.
Definitely give the GTS steering a go once you can find someone to code it.

RE71RS! I’ll probably try those out next once they land states side later this year, lots of 18in sizes.
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It’s actually brighter in real life. I like it. I like any color on GT4 lol
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