02-01-2017, 01:38 PM | #1 |
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Putting the DCT in P
Had the car for over a year and still couldn't figure this out.
How do you put the car in P? Sometimes by pushing the start/stop button it goes into N, then I need to repress it without brake to put into P. Other times one press will put it into P. Thanks in advance. |
02-01-2017, 01:48 PM | #2 |
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You don't. Just leave it in D. When you park the car and shut it off, it will go to P.
If you want to leave the car running while stopped with your foot off the brake, either leave it in N or D with the parking brake on. |
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02-02-2017, 09:28 AM | #4 |
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If the engine is shutdown with the DCT in either S, D or R, it will it directly go to P. If the engine is shutdown with the DCT in N, it will stay in N and will require another press of the Start/Stop button to go into P.
It has to be noted that if you open the driver's door and unlatch the driver's safety belt with the engine running and the DCT in S, D or R, the DCT will automatically go to N. So if you shutdown the engine at that point, it will stay in N.
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02-02-2017, 10:23 AM | #5 |
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I am still amused and perplexed by why BMW couldn't have just added a button that allows you to instruct the car to go into park.
They could label it with a big "P" and put it either on the shifter or near it. It is a novel concept to be sure. I mean, its not like EVERY OTHER AUTOMATIC OR AUTOMATED MANUAL TRANSMISSION VEHICLE HAS HAD THAT SINCE THE INVENTION OF THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION!!!
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I don't know why this is such a big deal. Leave the car in D and press the start/stop button. If you want to secure the car with the engine still running, pull the e-brake. It'll be fine, really. |
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02-02-2017, 01:54 PM | #8 | |
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FYI, the DCT does have a parking pawl just like any other automatic transmission (btw, something a true manual does NOT have).
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That would be just one more button to press. I am quite happy the way it works today: simple and effective IMO. Quote:
A key difference with the M-DCT and traditional automatics is that you cannot put it in park with the engine running.
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I would hate to push one more button ("P") to park my car. |
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I have trouble finding the problem here.
The DCT on my M4 works mostly like the DCT's on my Z4 35iS's: when the transmission is in any gear and I press the Start button, the engine stops and the transmission goes into Park mode. The Z4's had a "P" button on the shifter which I never, ever had to use. I have never had a need for one on the M4. I haven't tried any of the permutations listed by CanAutM3, but I suspect they're accurate. I just always have my foot on the brake when I start or stop the engine and never open the door or release my seatbelt with the engine running. I've never had my DCT shift spontaneously to N. CanAutM3 is probably right that it'll do that if the engine is running and I open the door with my seatbelt unlatched (and it makes sense that it would do so), but that's not at all the situation that the OP reports.
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Bottom line is, if you recognize the DCT for what it is , A MANUAL TRANSMISSION with an automatic mode, the process is simple. MANUAL transmissions have NO PARK. You leave the car IN GEAR and shut it off. Voila you are done. DCT is the same thing. Leave the car IN GEAR and shut it off. Voila you are DONE. The car does not have a Park Button because it is NOT A FREAKING AUTOMATIC transmission.
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IMO the real problem with our cars isn't a lack of a "Park" button, but the fact that we can't put the car into neutral once it's shut off! |
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BMW makes what is arguably one of the best DCT "automatic" gearboxes ever, hands down, and people still find the ability to complain that it isn't "convenient" enough for them. Ah the world we live in today.
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When absolutely needed, it can be done by a tech, if needed. But that requires the tech to get underneath the car to disengage the parking pawl. |
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Customer prefers the ease of an automatic but the enthusiast feel of a manual -> BMW develops the best of both worlds -> Customer complains BMW transmission isn't like the ones they had back in their day ->Manual drivers like myself =
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Like I said in that thread, even in that rare occasion when cooler is pierced, one can still switch to N before shutting the engine off, then wait for the tow. No problem there. |
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Admittedly, I do not know 100% but aren't people saying in this thread that the transmission will go into park when you shut the engine off, no?
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Get to know your DCT, and don't be overly paranoid about what could go wrong, especially when the odd is so small. We should not ask for things to be at our fingertip when we don't really have an immediate need for it. M3 is a beautiful car to enjoy. Cheers! |
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