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      09-21-2014, 04:36 PM   #397
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Not bad showing for the Cayman GTS, only 0.6 secs slower than M4 despite hp and trq disadvantage, although the M4 carries 250 Kg more weight. The vid is between the CGTS and Macan TT, Nice going!

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/09/19/p...s-track-video/

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      09-22-2014, 04:59 AM   #398
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Have to say, I think a PDK Cayman GTS would be up there with the M4.
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      09-22-2014, 10:27 AM   #399
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From this and the Ring times, it seems the m4 edges out the gts by a very small margin. I think it would come down to the track and the driver. Obviously the power advantage of the M4 gives it a leg up on power tracks and the lighter weight mid engine GTS gets a leg up on slower tracks with more turns. Also, IMO, it would take more skill to drive the M4 at the limit as its monster TQ makes powering out of corners more difficult and you are husling around more weight (then again, its been noted that it drives like a lighter car).
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      09-24-2014, 01:50 AM   #400
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Here's a short clip of the sound and acceleration of the cayman GTS

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      09-29-2014, 01:22 PM   #401
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I have the standard PASM and ground clearance hasn’t been a problem once, hoping the sports suspension (SS) is the same.

Did my first track day with the GTS today and it was amazing. Ran at Blackhawk farms. Only the 3rd track day I have ran. My other two were with my 2011 335is.

The car was amazing. Acceleration was adequate from the standpoint that my last two cars had 550+hp. Dont get me wrong, the car's incredibly quick, but i noticed i topped out at 110mph in the GTS were I would hit 110 in the IS halfway down the straight.

Braking was shocking. I never had the nerve to hit a braking zone where I needed all the brakes. I was hitting 1.25gs and still had peddle left if I needed it and I was honestly getting light headed each time with the sustained Gs.

The car didnt understeer a single time. Any time I thought I came into a corner too hot or too wide, I could still hit the apex by adding more turn in and I was able to fix any bad entry by mid turn. The midengine set up is truly amazing. If you push the car hard enough to have the back end step out, it does in slow motion. For those that have hooned in the snow, its very similar, the back drifts out but in slow motion with literal full seconds to recover.

My lap time in the 335is was 1:34 and I was hoping to get that under 1:30. I was able to hit 1:24 with a clear track in the GTS. I am so happy with the improvement. The car literally makes you a better driver. Its so forgiving and gives me a platform that will take years to reach its limits.
Here is a video from my track day.

I am a bad driver and sound. The mic actually falls half way through into a door pocket and you get less wind noise.



Also hit up the drag strip.
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      09-29-2014, 01:24 PM   #402
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Car weight was 3,275lbs with me in the car, gear and 3/4 tank of gas. I would estimate 3,125 for the car only and a full tank of gas.
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      09-29-2014, 03:13 PM   #403
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damn, pretty impressive ET's at those trap speeds.
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what is PTV?
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      09-29-2014, 05:59 PM   #405
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Torque vectoring

http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/ca...vectoring-ptv/
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      09-29-2014, 06:08 PM   #406
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that sucks...auto braking on the inside wheel??

Do you have to get this option to get a locking diff?
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      09-29-2014, 06:20 PM   #407
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Nice video!
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      09-29-2014, 07:16 PM   #408
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that sucks...auto braking on the inside wheel??

Do you have to get this option to get a locking diff?
Yup Really sucks. Open diffs FTL. That said, I haven't really missed it much except on low speed corners, my 981 S with X73 suspension (20mm lower) powers out of corners pretty well.
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Yup Really sucks. Open diffs FTL. That said, I haven't really missed it much except on low speed corners, my 981 S with X73 suspension (20mm lower) powers out of corners pretty well.
hmm wonder if there is any aftermarket help OR get the PTV and code out the braking lol.
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