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      11-07-2017, 05:57 PM   #45
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I'm surprised the official intro is so quick after we just saw recent spy photos.... and oddly.. the official order date is over 6 months away..
The whole thing has been atypical. It would appear this car was sort of a last minute green lit project. No doubt they realized that the product made too much sense from a business perspective to ignore - it would be relatively quick to pull together, and it would work out great as a limited edition swan song to the F80.

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nice to have the official production info ... since previous speculation was that BMW would make as many as customers would order.
On that topic, in some ways the M3 itself is limited at this point due to the fact that it’s only got just under a year left of production. M vehicles are already limited to a specific number of allocations. Of course BMW can choose to flex production and increase output at any time, but in general, they tend to keep numbers low. M3 allocations in particular have been in somewhat tight supply throughout the run, so any M3 released in the last year of production was always going to be scarce in relative terms. The point here is, although they are coming out and saying upfront how many they will build, the number they chose is probably not far off from what expected demand would have been over the few months the car will be built. Now, announcing the number ahead of time will probably prove to be a very shrewd marketing move because it will build hype and create demand.
Your point on for demand, and with full MRSP pricing out the door. No stripper or invoice+ deals.
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Let the last model year 'special editions' begin. No OLED tail lights like the M4 CS/GTS, tail lights are the black edition m performance that is available for the European market. Red start-stop has carried over from the F90. Noticed the cost option steering wheel, nickel and diming BMW NA. I guess pricing will be around $85-$90k. Beautiful car.
Hm are you talking about these: f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1375733&page=6

The ones on this M3 CS look better (never liked those black line ones) but maybe it's just the angle/lighting
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      11-07-2017, 06:00 PM   #47
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assume 75k for a nice comp pack m3, what could this cost 90? kind of prices itself out of the market imho

otherwise, it is nastyyyy
yes.. .. I'll guess 93K for this and 95K for the M4 CS.

While BMW may have priced YOU out of the market... but I BET 550 individuals will not be priced out.

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Let the last model year 'special editions' begin. No OLED tail lights like the M4 CS/GTS, tail lights are the black edition m performance that is available for the European market. Red start-stop has carried over from the F90. Noticed the cost option steering wheel, nickel and diming BMW NA. I guess pricing will be around $85-$90k. Beautiful car.
If the M3 CS is less than $90K, those 1,200 units won't take long to sell out. A current M3 + DCT + ZCP + ZEC + CCB is already close to $90K. The GTS hood painted and install is easily $5K so an M3 CS with all those options plus some extra goodies is a bargain "IF" it's $90K. Plus it comes in an individual color scheme.
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assume 75k for a nice comp pack m3, what could this cost 90? kind of prices itself out of the market imho

otherwise, it is nastyyyy
yes.. I would bet 90K easy... I'll guess 93K for this and 95K for the M4 CS.

While BMW may have priced YOU out of the market... but I BET 550 individuals will not be priced out.
a super easy point to prove when only 550 are made... albeit that sure as hell didnt work for the GTS
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If the M3 CS is less than $90K, those 1,200 units won't take long to sell out. A current M3 + DCT + ZCP + ZEC + CCB is already close to $90K. The GTS hood painted and install is easily $5K so an M3 CS with all those options plus some extra goodies is a bargain "IF" it's $90K. Plus it comes in an individual color scheme.
The CS does not come with CCBs - they're an option, so take those off and... hmmm.
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Ok so let's break this down a bit and compare it to a normal M3 CP:

-wheels (you can buy the same wheels through Mperf for $3220, although
only black color)
-same MPSS (no cup 2)
-hood ($3800 through Mperf parts +paint cost $500)
-front lip ($1800)
-rear lip ($500)
-diffuser ($1150)
-suspension (same as CP) except for some links and hub carriers
made of aluminum
-alcantara steering wheel $800
-exhaust (seems same as CP except different tips)
-power (tune.. many options out there)
-individual paint $1950
-alcantara interior ? $$$$

extra cost so far: $13,720 on top of base M3+CP+DCT. ($66,450+$4750+
$2900)
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does this mean you will have his and hers M3 ? one a CS?
That is exactly right. The perfect stable.
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Let the last model year 'special editions' begin. No OLED tail lights like the M4 CS/GTS, tail lights are the black edition m performance that is available for the European market. Red start-stop has carried over from the F90. Noticed the cost option steering wheel, nickel and diming BMW NA. I guess pricing will be around $85-$90k. Beautiful car.
If the M3 CS is less than $90K, those 1,200 units won't take long to sell out. A current M3 + DCT + ZCP + ZEC + CCB is already close to $90K. The GTS hood painted and install is easily $5K so an M3 CS with all those options plus some extra goodies is a bargain "IF" it's $90K. Plus it comes in an individual color scheme.
How much is the new F90 going to start at around $95,000? The CCB will be an extra price option and the steering wheel is extra. The base will be around $85k-$90k for the alpine white. Individual Frozen Blue II (which for the M4 CS is limited), CCB and steering wheel will put it over $100,000-$110,000.
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Ok so let's break this down a bit and compare it to a normal M3 CP:

-wheels (you can buy the same wheels through Mperf for $3220, although
only black color)
-same MPSS (no cup 2)
-hood ($3800 through Mperf parts +paint cost $500)
-front lip ($1800)
-rear lip ($500)
-diffuser ($1150)
-suspension (same as CP) except for some links and hub carriers
made of aluminum
-alcantara steering wheel $800
-exhaust (seems same as CP except different tips)
-power (tune.. many options out there)
-individual paint $1950
-alcantara interior ? $$$$

extra cost so far: $13,720 on top of base M3+CP+DCT. ($66,450+$4750+
$2900)
Forgot to add option code MMM= BMW M Marketing premium.
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a super easy point to prove when only 550 are made... albeit that sure as hell didnt work for the GTS
the M4 GTS was DOUBLE the price of a base M4... that's really a stretch I think. Technically.. all were sold (to dealers) but yes.. I presume a few may still be available.

if BMW tries to get 100K for an M2 CSL.. I would think that those would end up sitting around as well. as it is.. a few of the 150 ZL9 PE editions at 62K are still sitting around
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Ok so let's break this down a bit and compare it to a normal M3 CP:

-wheels (you can buy the same wheels through Mperf for $3220, although
only black color)
-same MPSS (no cup 2)
-hood ($3800 through Mperf parts +paint cost $500)
-front lip ($1800)
-rear lip ($500)
-diffuser ($1150)
-suspension (same as CP) except for some links and hub carriers
made of aluminum
-alcantara steering wheel $800
-exhaust (seems same as CP except different tips)
-power (tune.. many options out there)
-individual paint $1950
-alcantara interior ? $$$$

extra cost so far: $13,720 on top of base M3+CP+DCT. ($66,450+$4750+
$2900)
minus 5 points for not finishing your work. that makes your grade an A minus

My calculator currently reads $87,820 ... definitely liking my $93K MSRP guess.
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Let the last model year 'special editions' begin. No OLED tail lights like the M4 CS/GTS, tail lights are the black edition m performance that is available for the European market. Red start-stop has carried over from the F90. Noticed the cost option steering wheel, nickel and diming BMW NA. I guess pricing will be around $85-$90k. Beautiful car.
Hm are you talking about these: f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1375733&page=6

The ones on this M3 CS look better (never liked those black line ones) but maybe it's just the angle/lighting
These lights:

Store/Shop For Euro-Spec M-Perf Parts Near Welt?

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1426325
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"The first ever M3 CS", except for the E46 M3 CS?! :
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"The first ever M3 CS", except for the E46 M3 CS?! :
Since its a BMW NA press release, maybe it is couching it in terms of it being the first American bound M3 CS? I could be mistaken though.

Edit: I think I may be mistaken based on what Wikipedia says. Looks like the CSL did not come to the US but the CS (Competition Package) did, however it was only called the CS in the UK
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