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      07-05-2020, 07:13 PM   #1211
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Buying a used 2018 M4. I am between 2 cars
1. ZCP with Black 20” wheels
2. 18 non ZCP with Black 19” wheels, but Full Leather.

Non ZCP would be like 1k less

What way should i go? I’ll never track the car and it will be my first //M
ZCP with Black 20” wheels
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Buying a used 2018 M4. I am between 2 cars
1. ZCP with Black 20" wheels
2. 18 non ZCP with Black 19" wheels, but Full Leather.

Non ZCP would be like 1k less

What way should i go? I'll never track the car and it will be my first //M
This isn't even a question. I have a non ZCP, no regrets but for a 1k diff it's literally a no brained. ZCP will Hold value better too so you'll def get back the 1k.

Full leather is nice but nothing crazy these interiors are driver focused anyway rather than being luxurious.

It's an M car, competition pack over full leather any day.

Also 20 inch black wheels 666m are beautiful
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ZCP > extra leather
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This isn't even a question. I have a non ZCP, no regrets but for a 1k diff it's literally a no brained. ZCP will Hold value better too so you'll def get back the 1k.

Full leather is nice but nothing crazy these interiors are driver focused anyway rather than being luxurious.

It's an M car, competition pack over full leather any day.

Also 20 inch black wheels 666m are beautiful
Agree! I think ZCP is the way to go.. but I wanted the 18" wheels and since apparently you don't feel the 50 hp difference.. Im good with the nonzcp
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I was shopping ZCP only and test drove MANY! love the seats & wheels and extra little power bump... but found a great deal on a very clean 2016 non ZCP with a bunch of aftermarket parts the original owner had added.

I sold the remus exhaust it came with and bought some nice ZCP 666 wheels and iam very very happy with my choice. I don't think its a must but iam sure if i had one i would think so.

the " look back" pic i took today ...i just love it!!!
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I was shopping ZCP only and test drove MANY! love the seats & wheels and extra little power bump... but found a great deal on a very clean 2016 non ZCP with a bunch of aftermarket parts the original owner had added.

I sold the remus exhaust it came with and bought some nice ZCP 666 wheels and iam very very happy with my choice. I don't think its a must but iam sure if i had one i would think so.

the " look back" pic i took today ...i just love it!!!
Didn't like how the exhaust sounded or just too loud?
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This isn't even a question. I have a non ZCP, no regrets but for a 1k diff it's literally a no brained. ZCP will Hold value better too so you'll def get back the 1k.

Full leather is nice but nothing crazy these interiors are driver focused anyway rather than being luxurious.

It's an M car, competition pack over full leather any day.

Also 20 inch black wheels 666m are beautiful
Agree! I think ZCP is the way to go.. but I wanted the 18" wheels and since apparently you don't feel the 50 hp difference.. Im good with the nonzcp
Handling you'll feel on the road & smh how could you want those 18 inch wheels... it's all subjective but idk theyre objectively ugly lol
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Buying a used 2018 M4. I am between 2 cars
1. ZCP with Black 20” wheels
2. 18 non ZCP with Black 19” wheels, but Full Leather.

Non ZCP would be like 1k less

What way should i go? I’ll never track the car and it will be my first //M
If the cars are in the exact same shape, same miles, same options then probably the ZCP. But I bet there is more to the story - do note the 20" wheels ride much worse than the 19s. In California, that's probably not a big deal, but in a place with bad roads, it might be.

Still, I bet there is probably more to the story than just ZCP vs. non ZCP with leather (which BTW is stunning and worth it if you can find it).
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Buying a used 2018 M4. I am between 2 cars
1. ZCP with Black 20” wheels
2. 18 non ZCP with Black 19” wheels, but Full Leather.

Non ZCP would be like 1k less

What way should i go? I’ll never track the car and it will be my first //M
If 1k makes a difference in your bank account non-zcp.

If not get the zcp. IMO the zcp seems to holds its value better.
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This isn't even a question. I have a non ZCP, no regrets but for a 1k diff it's literally a no brained. ZCP will Hold value better too so you'll def get back the 1k.

Full leather is nice but nothing crazy these interiors are driver focused anyway rather than being luxurious.

It's an M car, competition pack over full leather any day.

Also 20 inch black wheels 666m are beautiful
Agree! I think ZCP is the way to go.. but I wanted the 18" wheels and since apparently you don't feel the 50 hp difference.. Im good with the nonzcp
Handling you'll feel on the road & smh how could you want those 18 inch wheels... it's all subjective but idk theyre objectively ugly lol
those 18s are sick in person. I love the design and wish they came in 19s. they're lightweight and make a great track set or winters if needed
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those 18s are sick in person. I love the design and wish they came in 19s. they're lightweight and make a great track set or winters if needed
Yeah,, what he said!! stole my words...and Im sure you've read mine recent thread.. I like a more comfortable ride in NYC lol.. Also my favorite part.. I feel like majority of the people have the comp package... I like to be different..
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is the 2020 M4 diff the same hardware as the CP diff ? just the difference being revised coding to the M Active differential if so is it possible to just code the non CP diff to CP ? thanks in advance sure this is in here somewhere but so many pages :
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Yeah,, what he said!! stole my words...and Im sure you've read mine recent thread.. I like a more comfortable ride in NYC lol.. Also my favorite part.. I feel like majority of the people have the comp package... I like to be different..
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Handling you'll feel on the road & smh how could you want those 18 inch wheels... it's all subjective but idk theyre objectively ugly lol
This is definitely an example of YMMV. I prefer the looks of the 18 513M versus the 20" comp wheels. In addition, I much prefer the ride on the 18s. I also like that they are lighter. Lastly, easier to clean.
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is the 2020 M4 diff the same hardware as the CP diff ? just the difference being revised coding to the M Active differential if so is it possible to just code the non CP diff to CP ? thanks in advance sure this is in here somewhere but so many pages :
Hardware is pretty much the same. You can code it with thor flash or other online coders.

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This is definitely an example of YMMV. I prefer the looks of the 18 513M versus the 20" comp wheels. In addition, I much prefer the ride on the 18s. I also like that they are lighter. Lastly, easier to clean.
Agree - 513M look a bit like the porsche GT3 wheels to me which i like.
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I personally hated the comfort of the ZCP seats vs the standard seats but I have lower back issues.

ZCP wheels are also ugly boat anchors. So have to have a plan to change them or go optional 19s.

Otherwise its a must have.
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I personally hated the comfort of the ZCP seats vs the standard seats but I have lower back issues.

ZCP wheels are also ugly boat anchors. So have to have a plan to change them or go optional 19s.

Otherwise its a must have.
The 763M are are a great alternative, the lightest and best looking OE wheels from BMW in a very long time IMO.
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is the 2020 M4 diff the same hardware as the CP diff ? just the difference being revised coding to the M Active differential if so is it possible to just code the non CP diff to CP ? thanks in advance sure this is in here somewhere but so many pages :
Hardware is pretty much the same. You can code it with thor flash or other online coders.

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This is definitely an example of YMMV. I prefer the looks of the 18 513M versus the 20" comp wheels. In addition, I much prefer the ride on the 18s. I also like that they are lighter. Lastly, easier to clean.
Agree - 513M look a bit like the porsche GT3 wheels to me which i like.
thanks for the info
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Ok guys I need some advice. I have been looking for a used M4 Convertible 6MT. I don't have a preference on color or year 16-18. But I am trying to find one with all the options that I want. But its been very hard. I recently found one that checks off all the boxes except for the Competition Package. It has

- Executive Package
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Basically everything. My question is with this car and the the added options like the Adaptive Suspension will I even notice the difference as a fun weekend car? Will I regret just not looking more and waiting till one comes around with the Competition Package?
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Ok guys I need some advice. I have been looking for a used M4 Convertible 6MT. I don't have a preference on color or year 16-18. But I am trying to find one with all the options that I want. But its been very hard. I recently found one that checks off all the boxes except for the Competition Package. It has

- Executive Package
-Lighting Package
-Driving Assistance Package
-Extended Leather
-Parking Assist
-M Adaptive Suspension

Basically everything. My question is with this car and the the added options like the Adaptive Suspension will I even notice the difference as a fun weekend car? Will I regret just not looking more and waiting till one comes around with the Competition Package?
Get a car with everything if it meets your budget. You’ll might be like “Ah I wish I had ....”

If you haven’t driven a competition package, you won’t know what you’re missing or not missing. If you like the current car as is, then buy it. Things like exec package make a bigger difference IMO. I think you get the ICON headlights and some luxury bits like 360 camera, Side cameras, HUD.

ZCP is a few more HP and revised suspension and a different exhaust. Unless you drive it back to back, you won’t notice it. I noticed it more when I was shopping because I drove both in a short time frame.

I have everything on my car except full leather and ZCP. I wish I had full leather now that I look back, but the dealer was giving me like 10K off this car so I couldn’t say no.

No regrets on ZCP, 5K for like 20 HP isn’t worth it to me. Plus I don’t like 666m wheels or the lack of lumbar support. ZCP burbles are cool and all, but you can code that in with BM3. Plus you’ll get more power with a Bm3 tune and it’s much cheaper than the ZCP package.
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[QUOTE=N1rve;27300764]Get a car with everything if it meets your budget. You’ll might be like “Ah I wish I had ....”


Thank you for your response. The difficult part is getting access to one or both to drive and see for myself. Here in Utah there is nothing to go look at or drive. I have had many BMW's over the years including a 2002 M3 Convertible so I know what to expect when buying one. I have come to the conclusion if I find one I'll either have to fly to it to drive it or just buy it without driving.

Anyway I understand that I probably wont miss the ZCP that makes total sense. Do you think it would hurt resale down the road not having it?

I really like this one I found, I just have hesitation with it not having ZCP and I just don't know if I should be worried about it.
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