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Case in point, some BMW official numbers: The MT E46 M3 0 to 60 4.8 sec and the MT E92 M3 was 4.8 sec. N54 grossly underrated, the S65 not the case. Going by BMW official numbers, an E46 M3 will smoke a N54 335i to 60mph...not the case in the real world. From insideline. Quote:
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12-11-2013, 01:55 PM | #203 |
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That is what Im talking about
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You are confusing 0-60mph and 0-100km/h. E46 was listed at 5.0s to 100km/h and 4.8s to 60mph. E9X 6MT is 4.8s to 100km/h and 4.7 to 60mph. BMW numbers are usually very conservative. Meaning that they are easily achievable in the real world. I also believe they don't exclude the traditional 1 foot roll-out. And yes, on average, a E46 M3 is usually slightly quicker to 60mph than a 335i. Swamp2 did very good predictive analysis on the 0-60 performance of the F8X showing it will be significantly quicker than the E9X. The fact that BMW officially quote the F8X half a second faster than the E9X indicates that they are confident it will be quicker by a significant margin to 100km/h / 60mph. That was my original point Will it be 0.5s faster in the real world? I agree, we will have to wait for instrumented tests to see... |
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12-11-2013, 02:04 PM | #205 |
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agree with most people, definitely liking the M3 more than the M4
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Has anyone noticed the M3 and M4 front fascias are exactly the same? Just like the E90 and E92 M3.
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12-11-2013, 02:17 PM | #209 |
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really... this m3 looks almost exactly like a .... f30 msport... i feel like most of engineering is under the skin; i feel like it is pretty discreet on the outside.
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12-11-2013, 02:22 PM | #210 |
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I like the M4 more, the M3 looks like a family car.
Just my opinion.
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I'm going to wager that the rear blinkers are either solid red or white LEDs in the US.
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![]() I've driven several E90 M3's. And while I loved the car, there were a few issues. 1, overall, just not large enough for me and the family. My wife and I are both tall, and with the E9X seats adjusted for us, the space between the seat back and the rear seat cushion is about as much as the length of an iPhone. Plus, as an athletically built guy, the E90 M3 seats, even with bolsters opened max, were too narrow for me. Finally, even with full leather, the cabin seemed a little low rent. I was very disappointed. I eventually went with an F10 535. Nice car but a boat in comparison. I recently tried to see if I could fit us into an E93, but while the convertible specific seats fit me a bit better, I couldn't even fit the kids seats in the back at all. Now the F80 comes along and it's perfect. It's still small, but just big enough we can all fit for an hour or two without complaining. I will miss the S65's hysterical shriek, but the S55 should be a stonker. |
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The new generation of BMW M cars.
Palbay is about to drop something new aswell.
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WOW.....
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