BMW delivery stop on M3

[shahano]

tough week for bmw

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by shahano

tough week for bmw

it's going to get tougher. people will want answers this week.

[nate16]

I'm doing my ED 8/22 car went into production 7/15 -- Genius said there are no holds on it but I'm worried this will turn into an even bigger issue. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

['Cane]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

it's going to get tougher. people will want answers this week.

People wanted answers last week. It won't make a difference, they'll give the answers when they have them.

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by 'Cane

People wanted answers last week. It won't make a difference, they'll give the answers when they have them.

ok thanks for your input.

[Colinv6]

Originally Posted by johnsopa

Totally underwhelmed. Keep in mind we have a 2015 X5 diesel which we love for its torque.

The interior engine/exhaust sound of the X5M is really pretty lame. Whether in normal or sport plus with exhaust valve open it sounds very "blatty" and not very deep throated at all. Heck, my 2015 Toyota Tundra sounds a lot better.

Outside sound is better but of course we can't be outside while driving.

The ride quality is better with the multi-mode suspension compared to our X5 with standard non adjustable shocks and springs.

I hit 220 kph a couple times today driving six hours north to a tank museum then abother four hours southwest to the Nurburg area.

I will say that this car is not a relaxating high speed cruiser. Definitely needs attention to keep it online.

Also the rear brakes are slightly warped so we get a slight vibration under light to medium braking.

Vehicle had 8000 km on it and the delivery guy said it was an M division car used for VIPs which could include test writers.

Anyway I guess it's better than a 528i. LOL.

Wow really shocked to hear your not overly impressed by it! I had visions in my head of it being all the car you could ever need. Did it feel quick then? You expect it would with what.. 560hp?

Does it tramline and wander a bit then when your cruising along?

[bob330i]

Originally Posted by Colinv6

Wow really shocked to hear your not overly impressed by it! I had visions in my head of it being all the car you could ever need. Did it feel quick then? You expect it would with what.. 560hp?

Does it tramline and wander a bit then when your cruising along?

I'm surprised too. Given it's price point, you'd figure they'd keep the cruising characteristics intact. I've driven a few X5s minus the M version recently and they all seem to be good cruisers.

Anyhow, I called the genius today again and the guy looked at two "lists" and indicated my M3 is still not on the list. However, it still has not been released to the VPC since it got to port last Monday. The target release to the VPC was Tuesday so it has me worried since it's been sitting for 5 business days now.

Lastly, he indicated his list is the 1200 count version and not the 3800 reported on Friday. Obviously, we might need to take that with a grain of salt either way, at this point. I'm just going to keep my fingers crossed mine gets released shortly and is here before I head out of town next Weds for the Olympics.

[///M4ster Yoda]

So we are at the Welt now. I spoke with customer service and was told that the differentials are "heating up" and could possibly "fall" out of the car. Not good. They were supposed to get the new Diffs in yesterday to start repairs but now have been told 2 more weeks. Sorry guys for the bad news.

[Skubalon]

Originally Posted by Master Yoda

So we are at the Welt now. I spoke with customer service and was told that the differentials are "heating up" and could possibly "fall" out of the car. Not good. They were supposed to get the new Diffs in yesterday to start repairs but now have been told 2 more weeks. Sorry guys for the bad news.

Do you know what car they are going to give you yet?

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by Master Yoda

So we are at the Welt now. I spoke with customer service and was told that the differentials are "heating up" and could possibly "fall" out of the car. Not good. They were supposed to get the new Diffs in yesterday to start repairs but now have been told 2 more weeks. Sorry guys for the bad news.

why the fuck did bmw have to touch the differentials? why?

[///M4ster Yoda]

Originally Posted by Skubalon

Do you know what car they are going to give you yet?

I might not even deal with it. We are also picking up my wife's 340 M Sport today. I'm pretty sure that's gonna trump whatever they try to offer us.

[AchtungF80]

Make sure you at least see your car.

[KnightedBMW]

This is a noise issue - differentials are not falling out of cars. I brought my car in for my 1200 mile service on Saturday and brought this stop sale to my SA's attention. She indeed confirmed my car was affected.

I subsequently opened a case with BMW NA on Monday.

I spoke to my SA twice on Monday who advised that they had been in discussions with BMW NA and that my car was able to be released. BMW NA advised them it is a noise issue and not a safety concern. The fix, however, is to replace the entire differential.

I confirmed at least 3 times with my SA that it is not safety related. I will still be receiving information from BMW NA directly, but they released my car to me.

I picked my car up from service this morning and will bring it back once there is a fix in place.

If there was even a remote possibility of a differential "falling out," I would not have been permitted to pick up my car.

I'm not claiming I have all the answers, only what transpired in my case. In any event, I'm documenting this every step of the way in case this goes sideways.

[Fake News 2017]

Originally Posted by KnightedBMW

The fix, however, is to replace the entire differential.

Wonder how long it takes to replace the whole thing?

[WilliamsF1]

Originally Posted by KnightedBMW

This is a noise issue - differentials are not falling out of cars. I brought my car in for my 1200 mile service on Saturday and brought this stop sale to my SA's attention. She indeed confirmed my car was affected.

I subsequently opened a case with BMW NA on Monday.

I spoke to my SA twice on Monday who advised that they had been in discussions with BMW NA and that my car was able to be released. BMW NA advised them it is a noise issue and not a safety concern. The fix, however, is to replace the entire differential.

I confirmed at least 3 times with my SA that it is not safety related. I will still be receiving information from BMW NA directly, but they released my car to me.

I picked my car up from service this morning and will bring it back once there is a fix in place.

If there was even a remote possibility of a differential "falling out," I would not have been permitted to pick up my car.

I'm not claiming I have all the answers, only what transpired in my case. In any event, I'm documenting this every step of the way in case this goes sideways.

My F80 was re-delivered two weeks ago and is also impacted. My SA said he spoke with a contact in Engineering who also advised there is no safety issue with driving the car.

[shahano]

Originally Posted by KnightedBMW

This is a noise issue - differentials are not falling out of cars. I brought my car in for my 1200 mile service on Saturday and brought this stop sale to my SA's attention. She indeed confirmed my car was affected.

I subsequently opened a case with BMW NA on Monday.

I spoke to my SA twice on Monday who advised that they had been in discussions with BMW NA and that my car was able to be released. BMW NA advised them it is a noise issue and not a safety concern. The fix, however, is to replace the entire differential.

I confirmed at least 3 times with my SA that it is not safety related. I will still be receiving information from BMW NA directly, but they released my car to me.

I picked my car up from service this morning and will bring it back once there is a fix in place.

If there was even a remote possibility of a differential "falling out," I would not have been permitted to pick up my car.

I'm not claiming I have all the answers, only what transpired in my case. In any event, I'm documenting this every step of the way in case this goes sideways.

I completely agree. Just imagine a diff flying out of the car at highway speeds.

[M.a.r.k.u.s]

Just talked to Genius yet again and was told that my car got to the VPC yesterday and is currently scheduled for completion on the 28th. He wasn't able to tell me whether or not that means it'll have a new diff in it but did say that the date is put in based on the work that has to be performed. So I'm hoping that either I'm lucky enough to get one of the limited replacement diff's they have there or that they've gotten parts.

[shahano]

Seems like BMW is starting to rectify the problem.

[johnsopa]

Originally Posted by achtungE30

I'm not sure if you're still in Munich but if you are would you mind asking someone what happened to your M3/M4? A bunch of waiting to take ED next week and were told we would at least see our cars and take pictures.

So, yesterday morning we stopped by to get a few things at the shop before heading to the airport. I was not able to find out why we could not see the car, take pictures, etc. Sorry guys.

Hopefully, my experience was an anomaly and not the norm!

[johnsopa]

Originally Posted by Colinv6

Wow really shocked to hear your not overly impressed by it! I had visions in my head of it being all the car you could ever need. Did it feel quick then? You expect it would with what.. 560hp?

Does it tramline and wander a bit then when your cruising along?

Yes, I think it's supposed to be around 567 hp or so. But, it's also over 5k lbs.

No tramlining at all, but keep in mind that the German roads are awesome (probably some of the best in the world) so crowning, etc. that we're used to in the US just isn't much of an issue over there.

I would say that our loaner X5M was a bit nervous at high speed. I ended up hitting 230 km/h a few times later on but it really was not a comfortable cruiser above 170 or so.

I suspect ours was a heavily used press car or the like.

Current: '15 X5 35d, '16 M3 (on order - delivery stop ED nightmare), '16 981 GT4, '16 981 Spyder, '15 Tundra CM 4WD, '12 G37x

Prior BMWs: '13 335xi, '00 Sport Wagon, '98 M3/4, '78 530i

[visi107]

Originally Posted by M.a.r.k.u.s

Just talked to Genius yet again and was told that my car got to the VPC yesterday and is currently scheduled for completion on the 28th. He wasn't able to tell me whether or not that means it'll have a new diff in it but did say that the date is put in based on the work that has to be performed. So I'm hoping that either I'm lucky enough to get one of the limited replacement diff's they have there or that they've gotten parts.

In my experience the estimates for the work order completion mean nothing. My car has been at VPC since 6/28 and the work order estimate has been pushed back three times.
That being said i hope they do actually finishe your car by then. Let us know how it goes.

[Skubalon]

Has anyone done anything with social media on this? I just posted something on Twitter - a social swell may help to extract some info from them.

Wishful thinking probably.