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      06-28-2014, 01:46 PM   #45
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I just took Euro delivery on mine a few days ago and whipped through the alps on my M4 that does not have adaptive suspension. I was extremely happy without it. I opt'ed for the LED lights instead, totally worth it.
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If you want a more comfortable ride, why not an M5?

I think even as an option, the adaptive suspension doesn't belong in the M3/4. This is supposed make you feel alive? Don't dull it down.
You obviously don't understand the adaptive suspension. It's just sophisticated damper valving tied to sensors. Yes, it does allow a softer setting for the shocks, but also a firmer one. In no way does it dull the car down.
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      06-28-2014, 02:02 PM   #47
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If you want a more comfortable ride, why not an M5?

I think even as an option, the adaptive suspension doesn't belong in the M3/4. This is supposed make you feel alive? Don't dull it down.
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You obviously don't understand the adaptive suspension. It's just sophisticated damper valving tied to sensors. Yes, it does allow a softer setting for the shocks, but also a firmer one. In no way does it dull the car down.

^^^This.

It is not about feeling comfortable. It is about the ability to be comfortable *AND* switch to firmer sportier settings with a touch of a button inside the cabin while you are driving, and all the micro adjustments hundreds of times a second as the sensors sense the road surface to make the car's handling better.
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      06-28-2014, 02:18 PM   #48
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Cancel and wait for the ZCP...might as well enjoy the subtle drop with your EDC.
Patience grasshopper.
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      06-28-2014, 02:32 PM   #49
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I checked my order, Mine was left out too. Dang!!!! I just found out, called my SA he doesn't remember me adding it. I remember it was the same day I added full leather at least I got that I guess. To late to do anything about it cars in production. I wanted it but now that I'm not getting it it'll be less of a hassle modifying my suspension now I guess.
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      06-28-2014, 02:43 PM   #50
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Why didn't your SAs print out the order list after you made a change? I get a printout from my SA every time I make changes to my order to confirm that the changes is correct.
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Hey in the process I forgot that this was supposed to be the discrete option, that's the reason to buy one. The AY will deliver this goal.

Details, if you didn't delete one of the wheels, you'll be fine.
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      06-28-2014, 02:59 PM   #52
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I read in a review that the non adjustable suspension is between sport and sport plus.

It's cheaper and lighter, but slightly less firm.

I like the adjustable on my E90. But if it was me, I'd try to get something out of the dealer and keep the car.
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      06-28-2014, 04:08 PM   #53
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I read in a review that the non adjustable suspension is between sport and sport plus.

It's cheaper and lighter, but slightly less firm.

I like the adjustable on my E90. But if it was me, I'd try to get something out of the dealer and keep the car.
Just for chuckles, does anyone know how much weight the active suspension adds?
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Why didn't your SAs print out the order list after you made a change? I get a printout from my SA every time I make changes to my order to confirm that the changes is correct.
My SA made me sign and confirm the options/spec sheet before I went into production.

My advice is to get what you want. The memory of whatever the dealer does will fade and you'll be stuck with a car you didn't want.

If you decide the passive suspension is okay (a lot of support for it being better than okay, but in the end you need to live with it), go for it but I would make sure the dealer makes it right in a big way.

FYI. I ordered the adaptive, drove one today and really liked it. Haven't driven a passive, so not able to opine.
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      06-28-2014, 05:07 PM   #55
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NO can do your missing out on an big option. Its not like is is a comfort item such as full leather or HK sound. This is a performance car and you need that suspension. Who wants to stick with 1 setting all the time. You will mis not being able to set your M buttons and know that you can't set your suspension level. There are other cars out there to buy and you can have them now. Don't buy this car it will piss you off every time you see that blank button where the suspension setting goes. Goto cars.com and look for other cars out there. I did it the other night and set the miles to ALL and there were 70+ cars.
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NO can do your missing out on an big option. Its not like is is a comfort item such as full leather or HK sound. This is a performance car and you need that suspension. Who wants to stick with 1 setting all the time. You will mis not being able to set your M buttons and know that you can't set your suspension level. There are other cars out there to buy and you can have them now. Don't buy this car it will piss you off every time you see that blank button where the suspension setting goes. Goto cars.com and look for other cars out there. I did it the other night and set the miles to ALL and there were 70+ cars.
I actually think Full Leather or HK will provide more daily satisfaction and enjoyment than adaptive suspension.
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      06-28-2014, 05:17 PM   #57
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Get the car you want....don't compromise! 3 to 4 months in the grand scheme of things is nothing.

Make the dealer pay for the mistake.....
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Get the car you want....don't compromise! 3 to 4 months in the grand scheme of things is nothing.

Make the dealer pay for the mistake.....
I suppose I'd agree and feel more strongly if it were an exterior/interior color mistake or a transmission mistake, but I don't know that I'd forego the car simply because it's missing adaptive (..especially if the dealer made good on the financial end).
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If you want a more comfortable ride, why not an M5?

I think even as an option, the adaptive suspension doesn't belong in the M3/4. This is supposed make you feel alive? Don't dull it down.

I would make the salesmen pay dearly for the mistake, maybe some type of 3k credit or something but I sure as hell would not eat the car. You'll end up liking it the way it is.

+1 Plenty to cush boxes with a lot of power out there!
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I been reading all the comments and I really appreciate all of then inputs, I was able to test drive a M4 today at another dealer, the car was awesome and it did have the adaptive suspension, to be honest I did not notice a big difference from comfort to sport. Since I already have everything set up for my ED I'm going to keep the car but my dealer is going to have to do something for me and on top of that BMW of North America is going to hear how their best dealership messed up my order.
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I actually think Full Leather or HK will provide more daily satisfaction and enjoyment than adaptive suspension.
I did not buy my car to sit in and be pampered. I did get the HK but opted out of the full leather being that the car is in the sun 24/7. This car is all about the performance so not having the Adaptive Suspension would be a huge neg for me. Its such a cool option. If your at a nice smooth track you can set it to firm if its a rough track like summit point in WV you want a much looser setup. Why limit your self if you don't have to. For $1000 its defiantly worth the money.
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I have the passive suspension, and I promise you that it is much better than the adaptive suspension. Read my write up and comparison in my thread on the pictures and video forum section for the M4.
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I'll just say that you should ONLY accept that car if you're totally cool with it. Holding a grudge or being right don't make you love your car, and that's what's really at stake.
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I actually think Full Leather or HK will provide more daily satisfaction and enjoyment than adaptive suspension.
I did not buy my car to sit in and be pampered. I did get the HK but opted out of the full leather being that the car is in the sun 24/7. This car is all about the performance so not having the Adaptive Suspension would be a huge neg for me. Its such a cool option. If your at a nice smooth track you can set it to firm if its a rough track like summit point in WV you want a much looser setup. Why limit your self if you don't have to. For $1000 its defiantly worth the money.
You have to remember that 'worth' is all relative. Most of these performance cars are boulevard cruising, freeway commuting, 'night out with your significant other' driven, vehicles that will never/rarely ever see the track. You may be the exception (...and post those track videos if you are ), but realize that you aren't the rule. For most people, the ambiance/atmospheric presence associated with Full Leather, for example, weighs more heavily. It's something that you see and feel every time you're in the vehicle. It's tactile and purposeful, and in no way does it correlate to being pampered; there's no degradation in performance just because a buyer has opted for FL!
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I been reading all the comments and I really appreciate all of then inputs, I was able to test drive a M4 today at another dealer, the car was awesome and it did have the adaptive suspension, to be honest I did not notice a big difference from comfort to sport. Since I already have everything set up for my ED I'm going to keep the car but my dealer is going to have to do something for me and on top of that BMW of North America is going to hear how their best dealership messed up my order.
Awesome! Can't wait to see photos of your car.
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I was curious, what happens to the adaptive set up if you switch to a coil over system? I knew from the beginning I wasn't gonna keep it at stock height for long.
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