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      05-11-2021, 11:34 AM   #903
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I thought the i4 M50 will have 530hp as it was officially announced and not 470hp?
Or will there be an i4 M with 530 hp?

Maybe you can clarify that
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      05-11-2021, 11:45 AM   #904
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i7 renamings, M3 CS shows up, i4 power is known.
So, for those keeping score:

iX xDrive40 320hp
iX xDrive50 515hp
iX M60 560hp

i4 eDrive35 300hp
i4 eDrive40 335hp
i4 M50 470hp

I suspect we'll soon learn that the numeric value in the name is a reflection of battery capacity only. In other words, I don't think there is any attempt here to correlate the badge to power output like there is with the gasoline and diesel lineups. For example, a future i4 xDrive40 will not make 320hp like the iX xDrive40 does. I say this not least because that would nonsensically put its output below the RWD eDrive40 model's output. Furthermore, an iX M50 (which probably won't exist, but theoretically could) would obviously not have only 470hp like the i4 M50 model does. This is because, again, that would nonsensically place it below the non-M xDrive50 model in the lineup.

TL;DR: when it comes to BMW EVs, don't try to guess motor output based on the badge.

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I thought the i4 M50 will have 530hp as it was officially announced and not 470hp?
Or will there be an i4 M with 530 hp?
I was wondering that as well. As you suggest, that may be another model coming later. However, a mere 12% bump in power for the flagship M model over its lesser sibling would be a bit of an uncharacteristic move. Perhaps they intend to deliver even more power for said flagship? They could use the 560hp setup from the iX M60, for example. Though, it's not clear if the i4 will support the "60" battery which is probably paired with the higher output motors in order to yield a more reasonable EPA range.
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      05-11-2021, 12:14 PM   #905
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Hard to know, the current market looks to be very small. Autotrader only pulls up 165 M2's (includes OG, Comp, CS) and who knows how many of them will be manual (especially since dealers love to list DCT models as manuals). I'd imagine there will still be used examples available of course, you just might have to travel for one that you like.
Thanks for checking Autotrader. To add to that I only want one in blue with a sunroof lol. Slim pickings.
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      05-11-2021, 12:51 PM   #906
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..Is there any chance of an electric Coupe in the BMW lineup?
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      05-11-2021, 12:52 PM   #907
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Does anybody have any idea on whether F87 M2Cs will still be on dealership lots around summer/autumn of 2022?

I'm really debating whether to lease an Alfa Giulia now or just wait another 1.5 yrs to get into an M2C once my post-grad training completes. I don't know if I'll like the G87 and know it will be a hot commodity/have no discounts at the time of it's launch, so I'd prefer the current model.
Used, sure, but new production on the F87 ends next month.
Probably be some new ones on lots with every possible accessory pushing the price up so high no one has bought it yet.
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      05-11-2021, 12:59 PM   #908
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Hold the phone.... So will the G80 we see today will be a one-off like we saw with the one year change from 2015 F80 to 2016-2018 F80? And the G82/83 will keep the same aesthetics as current while G80 has introduced its LCI?

Depending on how drastically the LCI changes G80, the current version might end up becoming a real rarity down the line.
M3 Sedans always got an LCI the model year after introduction, until the G80 which will get it two model years after.
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..Is there any chance of an electric Coupe in the BMW lineup?
Sure. By 2035-ish I would expect some sort of electric two door BMW. And I would not be surprised if it were the only coupe in the lineup by that time. I say that because I expect the 8er Coupe and Z4 to disappear after the current generation, while I could see the 2er and 4er coupes merge into a single model going by some new name.

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an i4 with the body of the G82 ?
I think we can safely rule that out. The G82 will be ancient history by 2035. And even the i4 name might not be around then (though it just as easily could be).
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Does anyone know if in fact the 2022 F90's which are supposedly starting to be built next month have any significant update from the 21's like Laser lights or anything to speak of? (Specifically for the US market). I know they've been available on Canadian cars as well as in the EU
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November 2021:

G30 Alpina B5
G30 Alpina D5
G31 Alpina B5

G30/31 Alpinas are already on the used-market in Europe.

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Does anyone know if in fact the 2022 F90's which are supposedly starting to be built next month have any significant update from the 21's like Laser lights or anything to speak of? (Specifically for the US market). I know they've been available on Canadian cars as well as in the EU
MY 2022 SOP is 1st of July, for all model ranges. Last year BMW informed the MY 21 changes on 27.5., so I would expect all possible MY 22 changes to be communicated late May or early June.
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Do we know where the G87 will be produced? Also, is the S58 confirmed?
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Do we know where the G87 will be produced? Also, is the S58 confirmed?
Mexico is the only plant scheduled to produce the G42. So, unless BMW plans to build an entirely separate factory elsewhere or adapt another factory to produce a very limited run variant of a volume car they are already producing in a factory built to produce said volume car, Mexico. Not thrilled about that, but it is what it is. S58 is all but certain. After the N55 in the OG M2, I doubt they'll deny the G87 the S58. Probably detuned in some way.
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