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      08-22-2019, 06:23 PM   #133
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WOW...I got my M3CS a couple days ago and just seen this! I hope I get a voucher; I did the Driving experience at Circuits of the Americas last month and it was a blast!!
Can anyone confirm this program still exist?
It still exists and you should see it on your window sticker under M Driver Package. The Driving Experience is pretty tame and nothing compared to M School, you are in for a treat!
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      08-22-2019, 09:56 PM   #134
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It still exists and you should see it on your window sticker under M Driver Package. The Driving Experience is pretty tame and nothing compared to M School, you are in for a treat!
OMG, that's awesome!
I just pulled the window sticker and found the line! Thank you for the info!

Next question...So is the M Driver Package the Driving Experience or M School?
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      08-22-2019, 10:36 PM   #135
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It still exists and you should see it on your window sticker under M Driver Package. The Driving Experience is pretty tame and nothing compared to M School, you are in for a treat!
OMG, that's awesome!
I just pulled the window sticker and found the line! Thank you for the info!

Next question...So is the M Driver Package the Driving Experience or M School?
The M Driver Package unlocks the speed governor and comes with a voucher for the M Driver Program. You can opt to swap the M Driver Program for the 1 Day M School since they are the same price or credit towards the other schools. I haven't done the M Drivers Program, only the 1 and 2 Day M School, but from I have been told that the M Driver Program consists of instruction where you share a car with another student, taking turns going through the various exercises. In the 1 Day M School you are solo and you get more seat time. The 2 Day M School expands on the 1 Day with time on a bigger track like Thermal Club on the west coast. I have a feeling the M Driver Program consists of a mix of exercises from the 1 and 2 Day M Schools but less focused. I recommend the 2 Day M school.
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      08-23-2019, 11:01 PM   #136
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In Canada, there is no M-Driving school promotion for the M3/M4 CS
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In Canada, there is no M-Driving school promotion for the M3/M4 CS
I just received my voucher. It took 5 months from the purchase date.
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Received my voucher early this week. Picked up the car on mid-July so just under two months! Not bad.
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      09-05-2019, 07:08 PM   #138
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How long after purchase did it take to get your certificate for the M School voucher?

I just got my CS about 2 weeks ago and when I called the school they said they couldn't find any voucher attached to my VIN.
Just got mine today. Roughly 2 months after purchase.
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      09-05-2019, 07:49 PM   #139
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Just got mine today. Roughly 2 months after purchase.
Congrats! That's good news to my hears!!

Where are most people going NC or CA?
I've been to Thermal with Ferrari for a training course but I've never been to the place in NC.
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Got my car in feb and still no voucher.
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Got mine the other day. I was surprised as I've had the car less than 2 months. Anyway, are you allowed to swap this with the 1 day M school without extra charge?
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Got mine the other day. I was surprised as I've had the car less than 2 months. Anyway, are you allowed to swap this with the 1 day M school without extra charge?
You can use it as a credit for any of their offerings. I'd recommend upgrading to a 2-Day M School at the least
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Just got mine today. Roughly 2 months after purchase.
Congrats! That's good news to my hears!!

Where are most people going NC or CA?
I've been to Thermal with Ferrari for a training course but I've never been to the place in NC.
Opinions...?
I live in South FL so it's closer to go to NC but I think I'm going to go to Thermal.
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      09-06-2019, 08:04 PM   #144
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So after 5 pages of this thread I still don't see a definitive answer. Are US customers getting M school vouchers with the purchase of a CS and "M Drivers Package" option?
The answer is 'Yes' for the US market. The CS comes with the M Driver's Package so it doesn't need to be purchased separately. You buy a CS, you get M Driver's Package.
Well then, Thermal here I come!
Be aware, M School is NOT the same as the M Driver's Program BUT you can convert them to the 1 Day M School.

M Driver's Program:
"BMW M vehicles provide a dose of adrenaline each time you drive them, and the M Driver's Program* will give you some insight into how much breathtaking performance these vehicles really have.

This unique one-day class will pair you with one other driver as you start in a classroom learning the basics like driving the perfect line.
Then head out to the vehicle's natural habitat: the racetrack.
Participate in pulse-pounding exercises like wet skid-pad drifting, accelerating and high-speed lane changing while maintaining total vehicle control. Finally, get behind an instructor for lead-follow lapping.
They will show you the ideal line gradually until you're pushing your M as hard as you can. Can you keep up with them?"

1 Day M School:
"You can't beat physics, but you can try. This school is about learning, understanding and practicing the basics of dynamic driving. Instructors jump right in to developing skill and technique with a brief classroom discussion. Then it's out to the track. Practice finding the proper driving line, braking into a corner, panic braking and the difference between slipping and a controlled drift. After a morning session of adrenaline pumping action, we break for lunch. The second half of the day sees you putting your new skills into action with our autocross, timed laps and skid pad time. This is one class you definitely want to graduate from.*"

https://bmwperformancecenter.com/school/classes/bmw/m

The main difference is that you DO NOT SHARE A CAR IN THE 1 DAY M SCHOOL but it looks like you get some lead follow on the Thermal track for the M Driver's Program. If it's anything like the M Track Day then the pace you at around 90% which amounts to 125mph on the back straight. You do not get to drive Thermal for the 1 Day M School. For the 2 Day M School you get time at Thermal and they pace you as fast as you can handle. We were at 100% and I topped out at ~145mph on the back.

I think most people convert to the 1 Day M School. IMHO you learn a lot more and come out a better driver. The M Drivers Program is a little lighter on the hardcore racing techniques but yet get to go to the Thermal track. I've done both the 1 and 2 Day M School and I highly recommend throwing in extra $$$ for the 2 Day.
What's the appx upgrade cost to use the voucher for the 2 day M school?
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Got my car in feb and still no voucher.
Same here - except I called the M Performance number and gave them my VIN. The next day I had an email with the voucher. I’m not sure what the hold up was but it was resolved quickly.
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      09-06-2019, 08:10 PM   #146
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So after 5 pages of this thread I still don't see a definitive answer. Are US customers getting M school vouchers with the purchase of a CS and "M Drivers Package" option?
The answer is 'Yes' for the US market. The CS comes with the M Driver's Package so it doesn't need to be purchased separately. You buy a CS, you get M Driver's Package.
Well then, Thermal here I come!
Be aware, M School is NOT the same as the M Driver's Program BUT you can convert them to the 1 Day M School.

M Driver's Program:
"BMW M vehicles provide a dose of adrenaline each time you drive them, and the M Driver's Program* will give you some insight into how much breathtaking performance these vehicles really have.

This unique one-day class will pair you with one other driver as you start in a classroom learning the basics like driving the perfect line.
Then head out to the vehicle's natural habitat: the racetrack.
Participate in pulse-pounding exercises like wet skid-pad drifting, accelerating and high-speed lane changing while maintaining total vehicle control. Finally, get behind an instructor for lead-follow lapping.
They will show you the ideal line gradually until you're pushing your M as hard as you can. Can you keep up with them?"

1 Day M School:
"You can't beat physics, but you can try. This school is about learning, understanding and practicing the basics of dynamic driving. Instructors jump right in to developing skill and technique with a brief classroom discussion. Then it's out to the track. Practice finding the proper driving line, braking into a corner, panic braking and the difference between slipping and a controlled drift. After a morning session of adrenaline pumping action, we break for lunch. The second half of the day sees you putting your new skills into action with our autocross, timed laps and skid pad time. This is one class you definitely want to graduate from.*"

https://bmwperformancecenter.com/school/classes/bmw/m

The main difference is that you DO NOT SHARE A CAR IN THE 1 DAY M SCHOOL but it looks like you get some lead follow on the Thermal track for the M Driver's Program. If it's anything like the M Track Day then the pace you at around 90% which amounts to 125mph on the back straight. You do not get to drive Thermal for the 1 Day M School. For the 2 Day M School you get time at Thermal and they pace you as fast as you can handle. We were at 100% and I topped out at ~145mph on the back.

I think most people convert to the 1 Day M School. IMHO you learn a lot more and come out a better driver. The M Drivers Program is a little lighter on the hardcore racing techniques but yet get to go to the Thermal track. I've done both the 1 and 2 Day M School and I highly recommend throwing in extra $$$ for the 2 Day.
What's the appx upgrade cost to use the voucher for the 2 day M school?
You just have to pay the difference between the two. 2 day is $4k with hotel included and $3500 with no hotel. One day is $1500. So you can pay as little as $2k.

You can also get a 15% discount through BMWCCA which can be applied towards that difference. Well worth it considering how cheap BMWCCA is. It pays for itself with the amount it saves you.

You can sign up with my referral code: 528522
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Got mine the other day. I was surprised as I've had the car less than 2 months. Anyway, are you allowed to swap this with the 1 day M school without extra charge?
Have you checked. The voucher is already for 1 day M school.
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Got mine the other day. I was surprised as I've had the car less than 2 months. Anyway, are you allowed to swap this with the 1 day M school without extra charge?
Have you checked. The voucher is already for 1 day M school.
Haven't called yet. 1 day M school is a little more track focused I think and the m drivers program is more car control..
price is the same though so I'm hoping it can be just swapped
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Have you checked. The voucher is already for 1 day M school.
No, it's different. M School is not M Driver's Program
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No, it's different. M School is not M Driver's Program

Voucher that comes with CS is for M School or M Drivers?

Edit: Nevermind, looks like M Drivers Package.
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My voucher (plus a few $ extra) got me this: BMW M Race Track GT Training at Nürburgring GP track. If I find some more extra free time I might write a "report" about it.

It was an amazing experience and will do my best to attend the next level at Spielberg next year. The M4 GT4 racecar is SO EASY to drive (fast)!!! They had the ~500 PS mapping. No aids braking (M6 GT3 brakes), you really had to push hard to make them work, but man, the feeling and feed-back!

Also, over 100°F outside and despite full "cladding" (race suit, undergarments, etc) I felt cooler and more comfortable in it than in the M4 ZCP that we used to "warm up" and learn the track.








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