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      11-12-2019, 01:31 PM   #1
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1005WHP M4 Build

With the year coming to an end and people buying stuff for Black Friday/Christmas, i've decided to post all the details on my build. Every mod to my car is listed, what challenges i had to go through to get here and what i predict is next for the platform. I hope this helps as there have been a lot of people messaging me regarding my car and asking help on how to make power reliably.

Disclaimer: This is my first modded car. All work was done by Cedar-Performance here in Dallas.

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CarBahn Stage 2 engine
Headgames valve spring kit
CSF Front race, top mount and DCT cooler
MAXPSI silicone charge pipes
MAXPSI J-pipe
Fuel-It Stage 4
- Split second AI6 flash controller
EOS Intake Manifold
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Brisk QR08S Silver Racing Spark plugs
Kratos KRASS55Bi turbos
SSP custom clutches
SSP Billet Transmission Pan
SSP Viton Gasket
SSP Transmission filter
Ohlins R&T Coilovers
DSS Driveshaft + Axles
BMS Intake modified w/ ASR Filters
Fabspeed high flow catless downpipes
Fabspeed exhaust
Brembo BBK Type 3 Rotors

I first started with FBO and a BM3 tune. I got into the platform when flash tuning was just released from BM3. I was pushing around 500-550whp/500wtq at the time with a custom tune from Paul Johnson.

I decided to add Pureturbos Stage 2 Hiflows next, build the motor, upgrade the clutches, Fuel-It kit, and add DSS's axles + driveshaft as well as BMS intakes after that. CarBahn addresses the crank hub issue themselves so i did not need to look at any other options regarding spinning my crank hub.

After installation and tuning, i got to 730whp/750wtq. This is where challenges were found as there were only a handful of people pushing this much power at the time with a built engine. I ran into valvefloat and everyone else did as well around 7-800ish WHP. With valvefloat, you could turn up the boost all you want but no gains would be made.

Two companies were working on a valvespring kit at the time. MAXPSI and Headgames. Headgames had a completed kit first so i went with theirs. Mike did a great job with his kit as well and offered me theirs before it went to the public. With the valvespring upgrade, the car made slightly over 800whp on the Pureturbo Hiflows.

A few months later, Kratos released their turbos and i upgraded to theirs. They do have a new turbo manifold with their setup and that is what allowed my car to get where it is now combined with proper fueling. While tuning, i found a leak in my Evolution Raceworks chargepipes and replaced them with MAXPSI's silicone ones. I also had to modify my intakes as i kept getting MAF errors. After that, it was smooth sailing with tuning in 90F weather here in Dallas at about 2500DA.

The last time the car was on the dyno, it made 1005whp/863wtq on Ignite Red tuned by Paul Johnson. I do not have difficulty with traction unless my tires are stone cold. Dialing in traction by RPM is the best way to go at this power level as dialing it in boost by gear reduces too much power throughout the gear. For example, i have zero issues in the beginning of 3rd gear at 3500rpm but once i hit 6kish, it'll spin out of control violently. I've made A LOT of adjustments around 6-7k RPM.

Right now, the platform is still young but i do not see it going much further until we get better control over the TCU and someone can crack the Flex Ray. ECUTEK is picking up in regards to tuning the platform and this gives us more options such as flex fuel but until the TCU is cracked, the platform will be limited. Again, this is what i think about the platform given how deep i am in it.

I will try to answer as many questions as possible in this thread. I've attached pictures of the build and i am still turning my car up incase you're wondering

I'll have the new stuff posted on my Instagram @RNGUYENNNN along with videos. It's a lot easier posting on there than here.
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      11-12-2019, 01:52 PM   #2
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That's an insane build! Talk about a lot of R&D.

I love the sleeper look too. Awesome set up
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You'd think with the amount of money ER charges for their charge pipes, pinhole leaks wouldn't be an issue.
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      11-12-2019, 04:16 PM   #4
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That's an insane build! Talk about a lot of R&D.

I love the sleeper look too. Awesome set up
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You'd think with the amount of money ER charges for their charge pipes, pinhole leaks wouldn't be an issue.
Agreed. Do not buy into the hype/name/branding. Buy what is functional and reliable. That pinhole leak caused some delays cause it was extremely small. We had to smoke the car multiple different ways to find where the boost leak was.
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Thanks for the write up and info! Great build brother!
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      11-13-2019, 08:31 AM   #8
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Thanks for the write up and info! Great build brother!
Thank you. I hope this thread helps others who want to push big power.
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Now this is a build!
You have an impressive one yourself!
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Any Texas Mile plans?
I don't think they have any events coming up but i did sign up for some 1/2mi events that i ultimately ended up having to miss out on.

I do plan on tracking the car around twistys as much as possible as well as 1/2mi events. The 1/4mi has always been on my mind to see what the car can do but at the same time i'm not chasing records so depending on my mood, i may or may not give it a full send down the drag strip. I do believe i can get solid upper 9sec passes on my daily setup. Launching the car is perhaps the most stress you can put on it.

I managed this 5.35sec 60-130 starting in 4th gear. I haven't given it a go starting in 3rd yet. The weather has been really bad here in Dallas and i haven't brought the car to a real track yet. Everything regarding my car so far has been done on the streets when i get off of work or during periods it's slow
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Boost by gear is a huge help and works really well but we'll add the boost by RPM feature as well to help dial in traction in even finer detail from the map configuration screen
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Boost by gear is a huge help and works really well but we'll add the boost by RPM feature as well to help dial in traction in even finer detail from the map configuration screen
Do you guys think youll ever stop supporting the F8X platform? Or will updates/new features continue be added even long after the G8X platform exists?
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Added you on Instagram Iím @carbon.m4 . Awesome build man great feedback for all of us.
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How. Do. You. Get. Traction. loll

Amazing build. I'm in Richardson myself... if I ever see you, I'll make sure not to rev up lmao
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I still need to see this thing.
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Thatís just filthy. Still making 700 pounds of torque at redline. 4th gear pull?
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Thanks for the kind words and i look forward to the boost by RPM! Also, don’t worry i don’t race anyone here in DFW, especially other BMW’s as i know who is pushing x power for the most part. It takes a lot to really get me to line up. I’m normally moving on the freeways already hehe
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I still need to see this thing.
Any time. Just hit me up!
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Thatís just filthy. Still making 700 pounds of torque at redline. 4th gear pull?
All dyno pulls were done in 5th gear. The dragy slip was done starting in 4th gear. I was still tuning for traction and third wasnít dialed in yet. I wonít be able to get too great of numbers on the streets with R888Rís.
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How much of an improvement do you think you'd see with a 3rd gear 60-130mph pull and maybe some boost by RPM/boost by gear tweaks?
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Just to be a light dick (sorry): https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...5&postcount=22 this guy has a build that is 0.2s slower but probably $10k-$20k cheaper (if not $40k). Curious to see if your build ends up yielding better results because it is super well done and super high end.
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How much of an improvement do you think you'd see with a 3rd gear 60-130mph pull and maybe some boost by RPM/boost by gear tweaks?
A low 5.

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Just to be a light dick (sorry): https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...5&postcount=22 this guy has a build that is 0.2s slower but probably $10k-$20k cheaper (if not $40k). Curious to see if your build ends up yielding better results because it is super well done and super high end.

On the streets with my 305/30/19 R888Rís, i do not think i can get a sub 5 on my daily map. Iím not going to try to find out either. Now if i wanted serious numbers, iíd swap my BBK out and run some proper tires on a prepped track. There are too many variables that factor into getting ďthe bestĒ times. The 5.35 dragy i posted is with the carís power seriously tuned down so that i can daily it safely still.

Based off of what youíve posted in other threads, it looks like you are comparing peopleís whp and 60-130 times a little too seriously and not factoring in other variables that come into play.

Without a doubt, theedrb can get a better 60-130 time than me at his power level if he sets up his car properly and iím on my daily setup. I honestly donít know what my best 60-130 would be. However, given the numbers that Kratos, Mike and a few others have done, i think my car is very capable of a sub 4.5

I hope this information helps you with your build.
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