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View Poll Results: What is your single most wanted F8X technical data?
Steering system HPS/EPS 8 7.48%
Power 13 12.15%
Weight 27 25.23%
Power to weight 33 30.84%
Engine type I6/V6 8 7.48%
Turbo system 10 9.35%
Other 8 7.48%
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      08-31-2013, 02:09 PM   #1
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What is your no. 1 wanted technical spec/data?

For me it's steering type.
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For me it's steering type.

electric! but don't whine! just because it's electric doesnt mean it will be bad. See porsche.

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Weight

Followed closely by redline.
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electric! but don't whine! just because it's electric doesnt mean it will be bad. See porsche.

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Uh...yeah it is bad...drive a 997 back to back with a 991
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Hp/tq and redline
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Uh...yeah it is bad...drive a 997 back to back with a 991

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Good poll. I answered power to weight since that is sort of a 2 for 1. I suspect we will get both power and weight rather than the actual ratio.
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electric! but don't whine! just because it's electric doesnt mean it will be bad. See porsche.

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No M car has EPS and that includes the new M5,M6 and M6 GC where the standard RWD car does have EPS so I don't see how it's such a certainty that it will be EPS for the F8X.

I'm not whining but BMW has yet to show that they can make an acceptable EPS for the base cars and are way off for something remotely sufficient for an M car. It is a big concern for me.

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No M car has EPS and that includes the new M5,M6 and M6 GC where the standard RWD car does have EPS so I don't see how it's such a certainty that it will be EPS for the F8X.

I'm not whining but BMW has yet to show that they can make an acceptable EPS for the base cars and are why off for something remotely sufficient for an M car. It is a big concern for me.
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=835953

my recommendation... just go and get your hissy fit out of the way now... stomp you feet.. declare you won't buy it... etc...

then read this...

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ere-its-headed
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http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=835953

my recommendation... just go and get your hissy fit out of the way now... stomp you feet.. declare you won't buy it... etc...

then read this...

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ere-its-headed
I've read those two long ago. Doesn't change anything. It's no confirmation and there is still no BMW with steering feel worthy of an M car. EPS doesn't mean it will be bad but it raises the concern.

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No M car has EPS and that includes the new M5,M6 and M6 GC where the standard RWD car does have EPS so I don't see how it's such a certainty that it will be EPS for the F8X.

I'm not whining but BMW has yet to show that they can make an acceptable EPS for the base cars and are why off for something remotely sufficient for an M car. It is a big concern for me.
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=835953

my recommendation... just go and get your hissy fit out of the way now... stomp you feet.. declare you won't buy it... etc...

then read this...

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ere-its-headed
I disagree with that article. Cars like the early M cars would have had earlier hydraulic systems. Last time I checked, they were the benchmark in road feel.

And he is right, BMW has yet to prove they can make a good EPS system. The only one that was sort of decent was the E85, but that was really only because it was light. So yeah, you should be able to see why people are hesitant towards EPS. Especially in an M-Car.
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Engine type/configuration is what I want to know.
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I want to know weight, even though I am sure it will be heavy.

also, all of the 4 series reviews praised the steering feel.
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Redline...followed closely by weight.

The weight is far more important, but I can't help shaking the excitement of an 8000 rpm redline. We won't get there, but I'm hoping "near 8000 rpm" means 7800 and not 7500.
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I want to know weight, even though I am sure it will be heavy.

also, all of the 4 series reviews praised the steering feel.
I'm pretty sure something around 3300lbs would be needed to warrant a different chassis code.
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Oil bearing clearances. If this engine requires 10W60 oil it could lead to the same issues as the S65.
You are in a global niche of one awaiting that critical bit of info mate
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Dont matter what.. there will always someone complaining on how shitty f8x is compaired to all mighty e9x lol
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Dont matter what.. there will always someone complaining on how shitty f8x is compaired to all mighty e9x lol
Being in love with my E92 M3. i have no problem saying the this new M3 is overall a better car. The things i like about the E92 that the new one will not have is. A high redline, and a distinctive engine sound over other BMW models.
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power to weight for me
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