Albert Biermann M division engineering boss - 2016 M3 GT, M7, xDrive M5/M6?

Richbot · 12-17-2013, 12:54 PM

M3 GT makes sense if they don't do an X4M or F81. There's a market for more practical fast cars. It's small but it's there. If it was available we would have bought an F84 instead of the 335GT for our babymobile.

zarehs27 · 12-17-2013, 12:57 PM

I don't understand how they would consider an M3GT but on the other hand, they said an M4 gran coupe is never going to happen..
Doesn't the sporty M4 gran coupe make more sense?

richb811 · 12-17-2013, 12:58 PM

Pass on the M3 GT. Give us the F81 M3 Touring!!!

vladberca · 12-17-2013, 01:00 PM

Bring M2 first, I don't see the point of an M3 GT

Ezio · 12-17-2013, 01:01 PM

my mom has a 335 GT. never really liked the looks.

Jblack4083 · 12-17-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by positiveions

Maybe M3 wagon, but not a GT.
BMW what are you thinking? Do you want to sell 4 only worldwide?

The GT's outsold the Wagons with the 5 series... Theyre more popular. Wagons are ugly !

termigni · 12-17-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 3s-a-charm

Give me an M6GC with x-drive all day long! I need a year-round sports saloon from BMW and the non-M cars are too boring in summer but great in winter. I could use more summer fun with a capable winter car.

Until then, you buy CLA63AMG or S7/RS7. I hope BMW realizes how many customers it's losing.

DASHOCKER · 12-17-2013, 01:15 PM

m7 vs s65 amg. let the games begin..

Ash83 · 12-17-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by py0413

You do realize the GT they are taking about here is that not-so-handsome weird looking hatch model they create for both 3er and 5er right? Not some extreme performance version of a M3/M4.

My bad. I was thinking about GTS.

///M Power · 12-17-2013, 01:29 PM

GT will be cool, would be better than a wagon, but they would hv to keep it RWD, no x drive crap other wise you would buy an Audi.

I don't know how they are going to make M7 better than the B7. Maybe consider a bi-turbo v12 like the S65AMG?! The 7 is a prestige series and we don't need a M car for that. First, it's not sporty cuz it shouldn't be; second, an executive car don't need to be fast, just secure and comfortable is enough.

clbmw · 12-17-2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich@GTBPerformance

Pass on the M3 GT. Give us the F81 M3 Touring!!!

I suppose the M3GT would be the ultimate hot hatch hahaha

If we don't get an M3 touring give us an M Performance model at the very least!

M7 like the sound of it, as the numbers creep higher maybe we'll reach that mid-engined ///M Hypercar we all are dying to see! M7 would be a good test bed for an S version of the V12 engine.

pkimM3r · 12-17-2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by btbossman

God I would love an ///M3 gt...YESSS...jk

Seriously? Would he rather focus on that?

aajami · 12-17-2013, 01:40 PM

I don't want to live in a world where the feasibility of an M3 GT is taken into serious consideration but that of an M2 is called into question by the same company.

Pure · 12-17-2013, 01:52 PM

M7, X3-M, X4-M sense to exist.
3-Series GT-M does not have any sense.
Maybe the invent a pickup-M lol .!

Lorde · 12-17-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

No X3/4M he must not be the only drunk in the house.

I would love an X3M.

KwlAznKid · 12-17-2013, 01:54 PM

fukin ridiculous with all these different models coming out, if Mercedes and/or audi come out with a true dct I'm saying bye bye to bmw after owning 4 bmws

Chill72 · 12-17-2013, 01:54 PM

3 GT is not a bad looking car for and everyday cruiser...BUT there is no need to make ///M version of it. I just can't see the customer base for that.

RingMeister01 · 12-17-2013, 02:06 PM

Lame.

Law · 12-17-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by starkindustries

M3GT would be sweet considering how awesome they look in M-Sport trim with properly sized wheels. Fender flares, a drop and a 3.9 0-60 would make this thing an RS7 fighter

You don't "fight" an M6 GC competitor (i.e., RS7) with an M3 of any form, speculated or not. That's not how market segments work.
Needless to say, the 3GT and 5GT look horrendous; i'd rather the wagons/estates...M wagons would be nice.

Regarding the M7, despite traditional M philosophy against large & heavy M cars, I think it'd be a pretty cool idea (& a competitive one) as their philosophy against large & heavy M-cars no longer stands anyway with the release of M-SAVs. They can do what they want as long as the bread & butter (M3, M5, etc.) aren't compromised in the process...wait

M3 Adjuster · 12-17-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Faust

The world does not need an M3 GT. M2 and M4 Gran Coupe are mandatory instead.

BMW starts making no sense lately. Naming the 1 GT a 2-Series, no news on M2 or M4 Gran Coupe and now an M3 GT rumour. It is getting hilarious.

Agree about the M7 though. Been long overdue already. V12, 600+hp.

I'm not going to say the world " doesnt need".. an M3 GT.. but I will say it needs an M4 grand coupe and certainly an M2 gran coupe before an M3 GT..

I see nothing wrong with an M7.. .... although I feel like the M6 GC already IS an M7.... but agree with Biermann there is no reason to leave money on the table just because a bunch of whiny enthusiats think they know what's right for the M division more than BMW AG does.

Erie Von Otto · 12-17-2013, 02:22 PM

Make all the GT/7/X3/whatever other ///M cars you want, but for the love of car enthusiasts worldwide, BMW:

MAKE A TOURING M3!!

Seriously...

gblansten · 12-17-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Snig

Go home Albert Biermann, you're drunk.

Totally made me laugh.

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zarehs27 designer 134 Rep 112 Posts Drives: '09 e92 325i Space Gray Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Beirut iTrader: (0)	I don't understand how they would consider an M3GT but on the other hand, they said an M4 gran coupe is never going to happen.. Doesn't the sporty M4 gran coupe make more sense?
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///M Power Enlisted Member 3 Rep 32 Posts Drives: F30 335i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0)	GT will be cool, would be better than a wagon, but they would hv to keep it RWD, no x drive crap other wise you would buy an Audi. I don't know how they are going to make M7 better than the B7. Maybe consider a bi-turbo v12 like the S65AMG?! The 7 is a prestige series and we don't need a M car for that. First, it's not sporty cuz it shouldn't be; second, an executive car don't need to be fast, just secure and comfortable is enough.
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