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      11-15-2019, 02:28 PM   #1
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Question ► Anti-Seize On Wheel Hub

which anti-seize metal is best to lightly coat wheel hub?

nickel
aluminum
copper

i believe using copper is not good as it erodes with aluminum contact?
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      11-15-2019, 02:47 PM   #2
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I've always used the nickel anti seize with no issues.
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I've always used Copper. Please note that you need to reduce your torque setting by 20% as lubricated torque specs are always lower than dry (less friction). 95lb ft is a good lubricated torque for modern BMWs M14 1.5.

Oh, DO NOT use any lubrication on the back of the wheel or hub plate. You need the friction there.
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I use the Permatex aluminum one mostly but sometimes the copper one. I believe my BMW dealer uses the Permatex copper.
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I've always used Copper. Please note that you need to reduce your torque setting by 20% as lubricated torque specs are always lower than dry (less friction). 95lb ft is a good lubricated torque for modern BMWs M14 1.5.

Oh, DO NOT use any lubrication on the back of the wheel or hub plate. You need the friction there.

So I did use the copper stuff on the studs ( I did the conversion) and the back of the wheel/hub plate... I didn't think it made that much of a difference but obviously after doing some research after someone told me it was bad, I realized the mistake. I torqued to 105 and noticed minimal rounding on the stud threads (m14x 1.25).

I've since removed as much of the anti seize on the studs, lugs and hub face and everything looked clean but with the residue still in the lug threads, I torqued to 95 ft lbs.

Question is: how bad is it? Part of me just wants to buy new studs and new rotors because im neurotic

Ps sorry don't mean to hijack the post

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So I did use the copper stuff on the studs ( I did the conversion) and the back of the wheel/hub plate... I didn't think it made that much of a difference but obviously after doing some research after someone told me it was bad, I realized the mistake. I torqued to 105 and noticed minimal rounding on the stud threads (m14x 1.25).

I've since removed as much of the anti seize on the studs, lugs and hub face and everything looked clean but with the residue still in the lug threads, I torqued to 95 ft lbs.

Question is: how bad is it? Part of me just wants to buy new studs and new rotors because im neurotic

Ps sorry don't mean to hijack the post
If you track the car, you probably want to get new studs. If just street, would just keep a close eye on them, but defer to others if they'd do something different. You should be able to adequately clean the threads with a wire brush and brake parts cleaner. Also note that if you really wanted to replace the threads, you need to replace the wheel bearing/hub assembly (not the rotor).
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If you track the car, you probably want to get new studs. If just street, would just keep a close eye on them, but defer to others if they'd do something different. You should be able to adequately clean the threads with a wire brush and brake parts cleaner. Also note that if you really wanted to replace the threads, you need to replace the wheel bearing/hub assembly (not the rotor).
The face of the rotors where it meets the wheel is what I was trying to describe... I think the threads in the hub-bearing assembly are ok as I put in the studs and torqued to 27ft lbs... 25 to 30 was recommended so I went in between. I was able to clean a large majority of it off with a towel, didn't use degreaser on studs, just wheel/ rotor face... I think I'll end up getting new studs and just cleaning the surfaces very thoroughly

Ps. For now it's just a street car but I was wanting to take it out for some leisure lapping

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