Will the relative scarcity of the sunroof mean it's worth more on the used market?

[BhamDavid]

In scarcity there is value. An basic law of economics.

There will be more people that will want a CF roof. But you’re not looking for several buyers, you’re only looking for one buyer. A buyer that wants a sunroof. And they will pay more for it. You may not sell it as quickly as one with a CF roof, but you will get a higher price if you are willing to wait for the right buyer.

However, I would recommend buying what you want. If you want a sunroof, buy one and don’t worry about resale. No one can predict the market for these cars in the future.

[DML]

No

[Antartic]

This is like saying a car with one wheel missing is rare and should command a premium.

A sunroof on an M3 is ghetto and I'd totally pass on any m3 with it.

[ryem3]

Originally Posted by silvergray545

If you follow the E92 market, it will prove this comment is 100% wrong.

If you trade the car in, they don't give a shit whether or not it has the carbon roof. Murphy's law applies here. If you have the sunroof, every buyer will want the carbon roof. If you gave the carbon roof, every inquiry will be looking for a sunroof. Like everyone thinks you should have a manual, while every used buyer wants dct.

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by ryem3

If you trade the car in, they don't give a shit whether or not it has the carbon roof. .

I think this is def the case. In a private party sale it will likely be less desirable since most people want the CF roof. However for dealer trade in which is prob what 95% of people do, it wont matter.

[FC]

Originally Posted by Antartic

This is like saying a car with one wheel missing is rare and should command a premium.

A sunroof on an M3 is ghetto and I'd totally pass on any m3 with it.

Are you kidding? You are just biased and clearly don't understand supply and demand.

I had an E91 M-sport with RWD and a MT. It was a unicorn. It happened to be a lease, but it's appeal was so high, I could have made money if I had been willing to buy it out and wait for the right buyer.

Just because you like the CF roof doesn't mean others are willing to give up the sunroof.

I had been looking at used E9X M3's and kept passing on all the ones that didn't have a sunroof.

It will likely take longer to sell an F80 with a sunroof.

[silvergray545]

Originally Posted by ryem3

If you trade the car in, they don't give a shit whether or not it has the carbon roof. Murphy's law applies here. If you have the sunroof, every buyer will want the carbon roof. If you gave the carbon roof, every inquiry will be looking for a sunroof. Like everyone thinks you should have a manual, while every used buyer wants dct.

Dealer trade in values don't accurately represent the second hand market.

[M2PDX]

Originally Posted by Antartic

This is like saying a car with one wheel missing is rare and should command a premium.

A sunroof on an M3 is ghetto and I'd totally pass on any m3 with it.

Well now, that's a mature statement.

"ghetto"???

[FC]

Guess what? Not a single comment lamenting the sunroof.

https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...e-6-speed.html

[Rh6363]

Originally Posted by Mustangquadcam

Well now, that's a mature statement.

"ghetto"???

Ghetto??? Yeah. Def don't know about that pov

[ryem3]

Originally Posted by silvergray545

Dealer trade in values don't accurately represent the second hand market.

What??? The dealer market IS the used market.

Many people have tried to advertise "sunroof delete" cars at a premium in the Porsche market. If you track a car, it will improve headroom. There may be some additional desirability as a result, but the difference will not be quantifiable.

[silvergray545]

Originally Posted by ryem3

What??? The dealer market IS the used market.

Many people have tried to advertise "sunroof delete" cars at a premium in the Porsche market. If you track a car, it will improve headroom. There may be some additional desirability as a result, but the difference will not be quantifiable.

Clearly reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.

And once again, you are wrong. Sunroof deletes/non sunroof cars are lighter than their sunroofed counterparts. So you can quantify it on a scale. Removing 40-50 pounds from the top of the car will bring the center of gravity lower.

Please stop sharing bad information with the community.

[IrvineTim]

Originally Posted by tomedkaz

That's where you're wrong in my opinion.
Those FEW who value sunroof will be willing to pay a premium to get the car they want.

...I feel like mine is a bit of a unicorn...ZCP with sunroof and manual. I LOVE that combo and it took me 6 months to find a slightly used one

The chance of the seller wanting to sell that rare car, with a sun roof, at the same time that rare buyer is looking for a car, with a sun roof, is so remote, that the value of that rare car is decreased, because no one is interested, except that rare buyer that is not looking to buy that rare car that you specd with a sun roof. That being said, buy what you want and enjoy it.
if your worried about resale, DONT BUY A BMW!!

[Caliboy951]

People this is dumb debate! I personally wanted CF roof but the deal I got on my 16 ZCP with a sunroof was to good to pass on (6000 miles for 60k) and CPO.

If resale value is so important we've already messed up by purchasing an M car.
That's my 2 cents worth...now enjoy the upcoming holidays!!

[Nikolas]

I'm impressed people can feel a 50 lb weight difference in a 3500 lb car. That's the equivalent of a 210 lb man weighing 213 lbs. not sure I'd notice that.

[ryem3]

Originally Posted by Nikolas

I'm impressed people can feel a 50 lb weight difference in a 3500 lb car. That's the equivalent of a 210 lb man weighing 213 lbs. not sure I'd notice that.

Precisely. If you have a stripped track car, you will notice the difference. For a street car in the overwhelming majority of applications, you will not notice a difference.

Headroom is the REAL, tangible difference.

I hope people aren't inclined to believe that deleting the sunroof will make any difference in lap times or acceleration times. "Misleading the community" haha.

[ArieArie]

Originally Posted by Rh6363

Looking around. All I see is the CF roof. Is the moon/sun roof going to be a rare option to find in an f80 in the future for the preowned market? Will it add value or not?

Think of it like a house with a swimming pool. You put in a swimming pool because you like a pool. For you it makes the house.

When you go to sell the house, a pool becomes both a liability and an attraction depends on the buyer. There are more people who think a swimming pool is a liability.

It's the same with a sunroof. There are more people who prefer the carbon fiber roof, and that is why you see few cars with a sunroof.

That said, I ordered my car with a sunroof.

[Rh6363]

I think I am going to order a cf roof and go grab a saw and just cut a hole in it, then call it a "custom build"

[Parabolica]

Originally Posted by Rh6363

I think I am going to order a cf roof and go grab a saw and just cut a hole in it, then call it a "custom build"

You should. It will be a 1 of 1, special edition and prolly worth $200K in a few years.

[Rh6363]

Originally Posted by Parabolica

You should. It will be a 1 of 1, special edition and prolly worth $200K in a few years.

1 of 1

[Aaaaaaaaa]

Look at the classified section. Does the scarcity of individual colors or Jhare 30's add value?