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1. No idea where he pulled the 1,850-kg figure from. BMW Germany's spec sheet clearly states 1,805 kg as the EG weight (i.e., with the 75-kilo ballast) for their German-spec vehicle. 2. Nowhere in the EU regs (here, here) nor BMW documents (here), that I've briefly read, does it say that the stated weight figures are "based on the most popular options from the previous model year." It says, on all German websites, that the figure is based on a base-spec car with no options, and that additional equipment may increase the weight. EG weight, the one that Lieberman seems to have cited: "The mass of the driver and, if applicable, of the crew member is assessed at 75 kg (subdivided into 68 kg occupant mass and 7 kg luggage mass according to ISO Standard 2416 – 1992), the fuel tank is filled to 90 % and the other liquid containing systems (except those for used water) to 100 % of the capacity specified by the manufacturer." So the German M3 Competition is 1,805 kg as per the above. 1,730 kg without the 75-kg ballast. M4 Competition is 1,725 kg. AutoBild measured their Track Pack car at 1,695 kg with full tank. US-spec M3 Competitions as per the press release weigh 1,765 kg. I don't know how things are in the USA in terms of weight regulations. I've heard that EU regs enforced manufacturers not to submit super-lightweight cars for certification, but I've also not read anything that says what the car should be like. AFAIK, it just must be in running order. Thus, they just publicly say they're cars with no options. I could maybe find somebody from my old place (OEM) to explain the process to me. FFS.
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It believe this lines up quite well. Deduce ~25kg for the CCB and ~5kg for the CF bucket seats from the 1,725kg DIN weight and you are right at the 1,695kg weight of the Autobild test car .
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I've seen a lot of guys on the forum scale in anywhere from 3550-3650 (lower even with MT). I mean I'm probably around 3700 with a full tank in my DCT F82, so half tank would probably put me between 3630-3640. Just a guestimate, but seems it's in the ball park of a typical E92
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I seriously doubt your F82 is anywhere close to 3,700lb with full fuel.
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Yeah, you've got it good ha! Seen yours scale in at 34XX if I remember correctly. My car is the complete opposite end of the spectrum and probably fairly representative of a typical F8X build that's out there (DCT, Exec Pack). Also seen that with some gutting this chassis can hit somewhere in the 33XXs without resorting to replacing body panels w/ carbon fiber
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So for context this was the readout from the scales. I’m fairly sure I had 3/4s of a tank, so I’m just adding 30lbs for the remaining 4 gallons of gas which would have me at 3690. It’s also possible that it could have been more than 3/4 tank but I don’t remember exactly... I just know it was at least 3/4s
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Man, the front of the car is so messed up. I really want to like it... but geezus, it's just so bad. What was BMW thinking
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No, it looks like a pig mated with an anteater. Especially the first pic.
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Fresh is not the word I'd use to describe it either
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I think there’s some major lens distortion going on with this - like it was taken with a fish eye lens or something
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Oh yah, the drop is most necessary! Maybe BMW will release another MP HAS for G8X once KW develops their HAS system
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Hmm... if you have driven one, I think you would know there is a lot more going on that makes up for 120ps deficit with Panamera GTS. Did I tell you near-Turbo level horsepower is safely achievable with a simple tune?
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