Mo Reviews
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts

Go Back   BMW M3 and BMW M4 Forum > BMW F80 M3 / F82 M4 Forum > BMW M3 (F80) and BMW M4 (F82) General Forum

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-19-2018, 08:26 AM   #1
Gjason99
Private First Class
33
Rep
153
Posts

Drives: Bmw m3
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Las vegas

iTrader: (0)

How to have a relationship with your Dealer/SA?

I've been a member of the forms now for about a year with the purchase of my M3 the best advice I've seen here is to have a relationship with your dealer/SA. I think that's a great idea but how is that possible. How are you guys keeping a relationship with the service advisor it's not like my car is in the dealership for work every other week my car has yet to seen the inside of a BMW service center. So please share how you guys are maintaining a relationship with your dealers thanks
Appreciate 0
      09-19-2018, 08:42 AM   #2
GaoKS
Lieutenant
GaoKS's Avatar
No_Country
508
Rep
454
Posts

Drives: '23 Raptor
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Colorado

iTrader: (0)

Trade them your money for their cars.


All seriousness, I can't think of a better way to build a relationship than buying multiple vehicles and not being an pain while doing it.
__________________
Current: '23 Ford Raptor
Incoming: '24 G87 M2 - BG/6spd

BMW Past Rides: 2023 G80 Comp, 2023 G80 xDrive, 2021 M3 Comp, 2020 M340i, 2019 540i, 2016 M4, 2016 535i, 2008 545i
Appreciate 6
SMGCFP584.50
instarand208.50
JayZap16104.50
JTK24121.00
mpizutti599.50
      09-19-2018, 08:48 AM   #3
GOLFFRR
GOLFFRR's Avatar
10814
Rep
27,599
Posts

Drives: GOLFFRR cart
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: we sell BMWs to "ALL" US states

iTrader: (4)

With our store its basically working with just one SA when it comes to service. That means when you need service you call the SA you work with each time and set up the appointment instead of just bringing it in or working with whoever is available.

with sales reps its a little tough unless you buy multiple cars from that specific rep. However a good dealership treats everyone the same whether your a HUGE customer or a first time customer. Thats what we try to do at-least at our store
__________________

BEFORE YOU BUY YOUR NEXT BMW, EMAIL OUR GUY KOTE FIRST!
Kote M Sales:Kotem@bmwofcamarillo.com Cell:805-368-9101
vipfinance@bmwofcamarillo.com for warranties!
Appreciate 5
khanyam4801.50
SakhirM410784.50
mpizutti599.50
VDMTom196.00
georgere585.50
      09-19-2018, 08:59 AM   #4
damageprone
Major
581
Rep
1,055
Posts

Drives: Tesla
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Casino

iTrader: (1)

I've read that people "tip/bribe" their SA gift cards, etc. But honestly, if they're like Jimmy says, you shouldn't need to.

I feel like the people that need to grease the wheels are the ones that need to get their mods past the BMW police.
Appreciate 0
      09-19-2018, 09:10 AM   #5
MomoM3
Major
MomoM3's Avatar
United_States
984
Rep
1,418
Posts

Drives: X7 M50i | M2 CS | X5 35i
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Lehigh Valley PA

iTrader: (3)

I have 2 BMWs I bring in for Service so I’m at my local dealer frequently despite not buying cars from them. Been dealing w the same SA for more than a decade but he recently retired. Now working with Parts guy promoted to SA whom I was also very friendly with.

My old guy loved military planes so I’d always randomly send him high-res images he can use as wallpaper. He loved that and it didn’t cost me a dime.

My new guy just had his first kid so I got him a nice bottle of rum (asked what he drank) to manage.

It’s the little things like asking them about his family, hobbies, what he drives, what he thinks of what mods, etc.

I’m in sales so I appreciate the art of getting to know someone before you dig in to business. Simple as that.
Appreciate 0
      09-19-2018, 09:14 AM   #6
bueller
First Lieutenant
Canada
174
Rep
310
Posts

Drives: 2018 EB F31 2018 LG F80
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Ontario

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
I avoid dealers at all costs. The automotive industry is hierarchical, just as manufacturers want nothing to do with customers, which, I think, is why dealers exist. The service techs also want nothing to do with customers, so that is why service advisors exist. So whoever you are dealing with, you are basically playing broken telephone.



I use an independant shop for oil changes, tires and small things. Maintenance is included for 4 years and I would rather pay someone who is personally involved in their work rather than take my car to the dealer.

When I have taken my car to the dealer, more than half the time I get my car back, it has scratches, someone has scuffed the doorsills or there is some other damage. I have had dings, one dealer managed to drop some kind of corrosive on the hood that ate through the paint down to the primer. Their solution was to make an insurance claim and feed work to their substandard body shop, on the way there, their enclosed transport got into an accident and my car was further damaged needing replacement of the front and rear bumpers, it was a fiasco.

I am in Canada, but have lived in Southern California and spend winters in Scottsdale and this has always been my approach. The only way my car will go to a dealer is if I have some sort of catastrophic failure that is covered under warranty.

I am sure there are plenty of dealers that are fine, maybe I have just been unlucky. I am not a person to cause a huge ruckus about things, I just want my car treated with respect. I have found dealers, especially BMW and Porsche to be more concerned with getting you a coffee and your personal comfort than actually treating your car with respect.
Appreciate 0
      09-19-2018, 09:34 AM   #7
minn19
Lieutenant General
minn19's Avatar
14029
Rep
10,080
Posts

Drives: 24 Z06, 23 CT4VBW, 22 PFinder
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Minnesota

iTrader: (0)

Flowers and dinner, maybe catch a movie after.
Appreciate 14
mkoesel7511.50
bueller173.50
doug_9992541.50
Arcades8169.50
ando2000.50
Draper3460.50
SakhirM410784.50
paliknight2191.50
f80er2056.00
Dimitri314.50
      09-19-2018, 09:38 AM   #8
SMGCFP
Lieutenant
SMGCFP's Avatar
United_States
585
Rep
512
Posts

Drives: '20 F82 M4 '23 G05 x40i MSport
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Helena, MT/Albany, NY

iTrader: (0)

What GaoKS said. Buy cars from the dealership. You don't have to lay down, but shopping them for $100 doesn't make them like you. Get a good deal, but leave them some profit. Or you can hold out for invoice, take the hold back, the CA makes $100 and they run whenever they see you coming.
Appreciate 0
      09-19-2018, 09:40 AM   #9
Darth One
drunk poster
Darth One's Avatar
United_States
6613
Rep
3,649
Posts

Drives: M4 GTS | E46 M3
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

yeah, just find an SA you connect with, and just keep going back to that person. all the dealers i work with have online reservation systems where you can pick a specific person and look on their schedules for open appointments.

i find that i can always find someone who ticks most of these boxes -
is chill
gives me discounts/freebies when they can
fights for me with the manufacturer if needed
mod-friendly

my Mini SA is a hardcore mini enthusiast who openly talks mods with me and is always at the local cars and coffee. he hangs out with us for a bit whenever i go. my BMW SA ticks all of the above boxes and she's quite cute too, which is a nice bonus. my Porsche SA's....well they've taken enough of my money that they feel compelled to be very nice to me now
Appreciate 1
Draper3460.50
      09-19-2018, 09:40 AM   #10
mkoesel
Moderator
United_States
7512
Rep
19,368
Posts

Drives: No BMW for now
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Canton, MI

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by minn19 View Post
Flowers and dinner, maybe catch a movie after.


And for the love of God - remember to 'like' every single one of their social media posts, and make sure to comment once in awhile otherwise people might think you broke up or something.

Also, before you leave the dealership, go into the bathroom and put the toilet seat down. You can thank me later for that tip!
Appreciate 3
bueller173.50
minn1914028.50
SakhirM410784.50
      09-19-2018, 09:58 AM   #11
Fast4d
Captain
267
Rep
885
Posts

Drives: 325
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: So cal

iTrader: (0)

pay them, spend money at dealer.
__________________
SAFE-GUARD tire/wheel/windshield/paint protection is a FRAUD! do not waste your money!
Appreciate 0
      09-19-2018, 10:03 AM   #12
cwhands
Captain
640
Rep
718
Posts

Drives: F80 M3 SS/CSAT 6MT
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Northern NJ

iTrader: (0)

No differently than you would develop a relationship with anyone else that provides you goods or services...

Unless you compare your SA & Dealer to the likes of Rolex ADs...
Appreciate 0
      09-19-2018, 10:26 AM   #13
JayZap16
Private First Class
JayZap16's Avatar
United_States
105
Rep
136
Posts

Drives: F82 M4, Merc GLE 63s, F90 M5
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Plymouth Michigan

iTrader: (0)

I couldnt get the paper work signed until after work. Sales guy came over to my place with all the paperwork. I showed him my saltwater fish tank. Gave him a bottle of scotch when it was all done. Later he gave me a M CF steering wheel trim on the house.

For the service guys I always avoid being a pain. Come in with 2 dozen donuts for the techs and SA and then Buffalo Wild wing gift cards for my SA and tech specific.

But the biggest one, is don't be a snob, be polite, realistic, and warm customer.
Appreciate 1
seis-speed2430.50
      09-19-2018, 03:01 PM   #14
seis-speed
#savethemanuals
seis-speed's Avatar
United_States
2431
Rep
1,970
Posts

Drives: 1M | GT3 | J392 | GRc
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: West Coast

iTrader: (0)

Learn the service guys name, thank them and be very personable when you enter their shop.

Send them a Christmas Card, thanking them for working on your car.

Works for me...
Appreciate 0
      09-19-2018, 03:18 PM   #15
DML
Colonel
DML's Avatar
968
Rep
2,017
Posts

Drives: 2020 Heritage
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Darien CT.

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by damageprone View Post
I've read that people "tip/bribe" their SA gift cards, etc. But honestly, if they're like Jimmy says, you shouldn't need to.

I feel like the people that need to grease the wheels are the ones that need to get their mods past the BMW police.
Grease the S/A?? I grease the Dealership every 3-4 years, enough. I find being familiar/knowing one of the Tech's much more useful.
Appreciate 0
      09-19-2018, 03:19 PM   #16
doug_999
Brigadier General
doug_999's Avatar
2542
Rep
3,968
Posts

Drives: 2011 1M/2021 992/2023 X3
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Chicago, IL

iTrader: (0)

Children Children Children...

You want TWO relationships
1. Service manager
2. GM of dealer

You have those two and you are golden.

For #1, get his or her email address. Email them prior to your next visit and say "Hey Bob, love your service department - any chance we can meet when I'm in for service next Tuesday? I'll let you buy me a cup of coffee"

Sit down -chew the chit with him/her, talk cars - ask for his card. Bam, he knows you.

For #2, well that's trickier
__________________
2011 1M, Black loaded sans sat radio
2021 911 C4S Gentian Blue, manual
2023 X3 M40i - loaded sans Park Assist
Appreciate 0
      09-19-2018, 03:20 PM   #17
CigarPundit
On the road to serfdom
CigarPundit's Avatar
United_States
1392
Rep
673
Posts

Drives: 2018 F80 M3 DCT, 2019 Raptor
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2018 F80 M3 DCT  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by minn19 View Post
Flowers and dinner, maybe catch a movie after.
What, no reach around?
__________________
"God bless our troops...Especially our snipers.”
Appreciate 0
      09-19-2018, 03:44 PM   #18
CanAutM3
General
CanAutM3's Avatar
Canada
21117
Rep
20,741
Posts

Drives: 2021 911 turbo
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Montreal

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Just like any relationship, treat them with respect and show genuine interest in their person.
__________________
Porsche 911 turbo 2021 992 GT Silver

Previous cars: M4cs 2019 F82 Limerock Grey / M4 2015 F82 Silverstone / M3 2008 E92 Silverstone / M3 2002 E46 Carbon Black
Appreciate 1
minn1914028.50
      09-19-2018, 04:12 PM   #19
Darth One
drunk poster
Darth One's Avatar
United_States
6613
Rep
3,649
Posts

Drives: M4 GTS | E46 M3
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

and then give them the reach around
Appreciate 2
doug_9992541.50
mkoesel7511.50
      09-19-2018, 04:17 PM   #20
MRV99
Major
MRV99's Avatar
United_States
254
Rep
1,067
Posts

Drives: 2017 M3 ZCP / 2017 RRS SC
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Naperville

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2017 BMW M3 ZCP  [0.00]
I spoil my SA. He has gone to Nascar, different festivals in VIP area and I have gone to many other events with him. He has saved me close to. 25k-30k in warranty/extended warranty stuff which may never have been covered by an SA which just punches the keyboard.
__________________

17 M3 ZCP -- 2017 Range Rover Sport SC
--RIP--
12 X5 50i Sport -- 11 M3 DCT -- 2011 X5 50i(Lemon) -- 2008 550 Msport -- 2007 x5 4.8 sport -- 2004 545 sport -- 2002 x5 4.4 sport -- 2001 540i Msport 2000 SL500 -- 1997 SL500
Appreciate 0
      09-19-2018, 04:46 PM   #21
Gjason99
Private First Class
33
Rep
153
Posts

Drives: Bmw m3
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Las vegas

iTrader: (0)

I get the point to be nice, loyal, treat with respect that's not the problem. The problem is that I've only been to my dealership one time since ownership of the car so to start building a relationship with the SA/dealership I have to just go there? And feel them out? That's really the question
Appreciate 0
      09-19-2018, 09:08 PM   #22
MomoM3
Major
MomoM3's Avatar
United_States
984
Rep
1,418
Posts

Drives: X7 M50i | M2 CS | X5 35i
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Lehigh Valley PA

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gjason99 View Post
I get the point to be nice, loyal, treat with respect that's not the problem. The problem is that I've only been to my dealership one time since ownership of the car so to start building a relationship with the SA/dealership I have to just go there? And feel them out? That's really the question
Go into your regional subforum and ask for an SA reco?
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:16 AM.




f80post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST