Escort Passport 9500ci Review on BMW M4

[racsos]

i have been on the RDforums and checked a couple of different reviews for all jammers and everything points to ALP being superior.

this is a long video but it goes thru it all.

[IMMLaw]

Originally Posted by 3er

My research showed the same when I was looking for a radar & laser setup a few months ago. I started my research with the 9500ci and quickly moved to Laser Interceptor. To your point, Escort is smart with the marketing and, most importantly, packaging. It's nice that one can purchase an "all in one" setup and not have to bother with piecing a system together.

As much as I like Valentine1, the false alarms drive me crazy in the city. IMO, you can't go wrong with an Escort Max 2 and a Laser Interceptor system.

A great setup! Do you have it installed on your '15 M3?

[Kyuze]

Seems like i'm out of the game when it comes to radars. I'm using a 8500 passport -_-. You're gonna have to educate me when it comes to radars when we meet up IMMLaw haha

[minn19]

What is that Rocky Mountain radar with that system? Any thoughts on that one. I've never heard of it.

[racsos]

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1020517

this guy did it right! You can get the 2 systems for 2000, the same price as the 9500 and i would rather go with this set up. The bel Sti-r plus is the same as the 9500 minus the laser jammers.

[Swancoat]

This time around, when I get into an F80, I'm going to go with the STi-R as like you say, it's the same as the passport, but without having to buy the laser jammers, and probably go with the ALP jammers. I just wish this was available as ONE system so I wouldn't have to cobble it together like this.

[IMMLaw]

Originally Posted by racsos

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1020517

this guy did it right! You can get the 2 systems for 2000, the same price as the 9500 and i would rather go with this set up. The bel Sti-r plus is the same as the 9500 minus the laser jammers.

Such a clean install. I'd be too nervous someone would mess the car up and make it look nasty and messy. Great install and great work by that shop!

[SuckaGDog]

Originally Posted by IMMLaw

Completely agree with everything you said.

Texas is infamous for laser use. And instant on, to me, is even deadlier than a laser because there's no protection from it other than hoping to God there is someone next to you he clocked.

Do you have a fuller jammer setup on an M4? If so, could you please post pics of your setup? Which did you go with?

I actually have an M5 and I do have a full jammer setup. My front heads are mounted in the lower grill on the bottom of the front bumper at the very top. I have them flush with the front bumper but horizontally straight for maximum efficiency. The rear ones are mounted above my license plate on the back side. I went with Laser Interceptors at the time since that was the best on the market but now ALP is coming up. I would go with them.

Originally Posted by minn19

What is that Rocky Mountain radar with that system? Any thoughts on that one. I've never heard of it.

Don't even bother with that, seriously it is useless. You'll be better off without it lol.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by SuckaGDog

I actually have an M5 and I do have a full jammer setup. My front heads are mounted in the lower grill on the bottom of the front bumper at the very top. I have them flush with the front bumper but horizontally straight for maximum efficiency. The rear ones are mounted above my license plate on the back side. I went with Laser Interceptors at the time since that was the best on the market but now ALP is coming up. I would go with them.


Don't even bother with that, seriously it is useless. You'll be better off without it lol.

Thanks for the heads up!

[3er]

Originally Posted by IMMLaw

A great setup! Do you have it installed on your '15 M3?

No . My M3 is on order, so I'm currently debating what I want to do. Given that laser jammers are illegal in Texas, I'm looking into how "serious" it is if I were to get caught/ticketed. If it's similar to a speeding ticket, I'll likely move forward with something. If worse, I might just stick with a nice radar detector and forgo the jammers.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by 3er

No . My M3 is on order, so I'm currently debating what I want to do. Given that laser jammers are illegal in Texas, I'm looking into how "serious" it is if I were to get caught/ticketed. If it's similar to a speeding ticket, I'll likely move forward with something. If worse, I might just stick with a nice radar detector and forgo the jammers.

This is exactly why I'm just going to get a nice radar detector as well. I am pretty much down to the Max 2, Redline or V1. If it wasn't for videos and reviews all saying the V1 is susceptible to so many false alarms I would have one on the way already.

I went to school for law enforcement and volunteered/worked with a local department for about five years. I saw cops giving people many more breaks when they were honest or not aggravating the situation worse. Having the knowledge that I do from this experience I think a cop would be much more apt to "throw the book at you" if they discovered an illegal laser jamming system on your car. I could be wrong, but just my first hand experience from being on literally hundreds of stops with LEOs.

[SuckaGDog]

Originally Posted by 3er

No . My M3 is on order, so I'm currently debating what I want to do. Given that laser jammers are illegal in Texas, I'm looking into how "serious" it is if I were to get caught/ticketed. If it's similar to a speeding ticket, I'll likely move forward with something. If worse, I might just stick with a nice radar detector and forgo the jammers.

Class C misdemeanor click the following page arrow also. It is cut off on the first page. I wouldn't worry about laser jammers in Texas. Just don't be an idiot and abuse them by leaving them on so the cop can't get your speed. If you are getting laser slow down then shut off the system so they can get a reading and proceed on like normal. Have had a system on every one of my cars since 08' and been doing it like this.

http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/675...th310947/m1/1/

[3er]

Given the types of crimes associated with a Class C misdemeanor in Texas, I'm leaning away from jammers . I don't particularly want to be associated with the following examples:

Examples of Class C Misdemeanor Crimes

• certain types of assault
• aiding suicide
• leaving a child in a vehicle
• criminal mischief
• reckless damage or destruction
• criminal trespass
• theft, if value of property is under $50
• issuance of bad checks
• illegal recruitment of an athlete
• insurance fraud if value of claim is under $50
• false reporting of missing child or person
• disorderly conduct

[Vectors2final]

Yeah.... fuck all that jazz.

[Swancoat]

Originally Posted by 3er

Given the types of crimes associated with a Class C misdemeanor in Texas, I'm leaning away from jammers . I don't particularly want to be associated with the following examples:

Examples of Class C Misdemeanor Crimes

• certain types of assault
• aiding suicide
• leaving a child in a vehicle
• criminal mischief
• reckless damage or destruction
• criminal trespass
• theft, if value of property is under $50
• issuance of bad checks
• illegal recruitment of an athlete
• insurance fraud if value of claim is under $50
• false reporting of missing child or person
• disorderly conduct

Traffic tickets are Class C misdemeanors in Texas.

[3er]

Interesting. I wonder if this would get classified as "traffic ticket" in Texas. Does anyone know?

[3er]

I found this article to be very helpful for Texas residents concerned about running laser jammers. My takeaway? It's no big deal if you're not concerned about paying a fine.

I'm far from a radar expert, but check out the following links for much more info about radar detectors, laws, which states run certain types of radar (& frequencies), etc.

http://www.rdforum.org/forum.php
http://www.rdforum.org/wiki/index.ph...aphical_Survey

[elbweb]

Originally Posted by Swancoat

This time around, when I get into an F80, I'm going to go with the STi-R as like you say, it's the same as the passport, but without having to buy the laser jammers, and probably go with the ALP jammers. I just wish this was available as ONE system so I wouldn't have to cobble it together like this.

I thought you might be interested to know the AntiLaser Priority does integrate with many radar systems via something like this.

When I did my install (it was mentioned a few posts up, the STiR + ALP) the main reason not to do this was the interface. When you integrate the ALP with a radar detector, it is limited to the single LED interface for it, and the marking/location database included is not nearly as robust as the one within the STiR (for instance).

[Swancoat]

Yeah, I saw that. Seems like it's basically just plugging the STi-R's radar antenna into the ALP.

[BMWJ]

Anyone see this yet?

http://us4.campaign-archive2.com/?u=...6&e=9a9a4a9c01

[xnu]

ALP seems interesting. Any recommendations on where to have it installed?

[ersin]

A few things here I'd like to clear up.

1. The STi-R+ is almost the same as the 9500ci without the laser jammers. However, you do get to do band segmentation and turn off the RDR feature with the STi-R+ whereas you cannot do this with the 9500ci. These two options turn a great detector into a superior detector. This makes the STi-R+ the better of the two. Also note that the Escort Redline has the same options which makes the Redline as hot as the STi-R+, but in a cheaper windshield mount version.

2. The new 9500ci uses the laser interceptor (LI) for jamming. For the laser guns that the LI jams it does as well, or better than the anti-laser priority (ALP). However, the ALP can jam laser guns that the LI cannot. There is also a few things in the way that the ALP operates that I don't care for over the LI, and some things I like better than the LI. Too long a list and too subtle are these differences that I'll just point you to rdforum dot org if you want specifics. All in all, the ALP comes out on top, IMHO. This again points to getting the STi-R+ with the ALP as the better choice over a full 9500ci.

3. If you get the Valentine 1 with the bluetooth module and use it with the iPhone or Android app then it quiets it down as much, if not more than the STi-R+ (and 9500ci) while still retaining, in fact increasing, performance. Better still, get the third party, free YaV1 app. (See the rdforum dot org forum for more information). With this set up and proper programming, the V1 will kick ass! It will be practically as sensitive as the STi-R+ and RL, and much better than the 9500ci (but not off-axis -- the STi-R+ and RL still have that advantage) and just as quiet.


Cheers,

Ersin