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      07-02-2022, 09:41 AM   #18327
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Put a deposit on new M2 at msrp.
So far i like the looks of the design and saw M240i in person and thought it has all the right BMW design cues.

My F80 will be turning 5yrs old in a few months and this would be the replacement.
I agree, the M240i is a nice looking car and one helluva deal in this market all things considering (if you can find one). My only worries about the M2 are them detuning the engine so much it's slower than the F80 DCT in a straight line, the horrid single cabin wrapping screen, and of course the weight. There's also no way I'm paying over MSRP for one, and I doubt things will have settled down by then. I'm not putting down a deposit on anything until I actually see the car, can sit in it, read some reviews, etc.

Also being somebody who just can't leave a car alone, I think I learned my lesson with the G82. Until there's a wide variety of after market parts available for the car, I don't think I should get one. I just like to tinker too much and the mod bug hits the moment I drive the car off the lot. Drove me nuts when I bought the G82 that about the only thing I could mod at the time were the floor mats.

Hope you enjoy the M2 however, I'm very anxious to see how it is!
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      07-02-2022, 02:36 PM   #18328
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I agree, the M240i is a nice looking car and one helluva deal in this market all things considering (if you can find one). My only worries about the M2 are them detuning the engine so much it's slower than the F80 DCT in a straight line, the horrid single cabin wrapping screen, and of course the weight. There's also no way I'm paying over MSRP for one, and I doubt things will have settled down by then. I'm not putting down a deposit on anything until I actually see the car, can sit in it, read some reviews, etc.

Also being somebody who just can't leave a car alone, I think I learned my lesson with the G82. Until there's a wide variety of after market parts available for the car, I don't think I should get one. I just like to tinker too much and the mod bug hits the moment I drive the car off the lot. Drove me nuts when I bought the G82 that about the only thing I could mod at the time were the floor mats.

Hope you enjoy the M2 however, I'm very anxious to see how it is!
I have all of the same reservations about M2 as you do especially the iPad screen and lack of DCT.
If its a homerun in terms of styling and performance, want to be able to at least have ability to get one. If I don’t like it then still have my M3 which is paid off now. I have not tuned the car as its fast enough for me but will probably mess around with it if i keep it another 5yrs!

I have so many other cars i was hoping to get and nothing has materialized due to delays, happy to have the fun cars i do at this point.

My X3 m40i (family suv) lease is up soon and all dealers quoting me prices almost double then what im paying now.
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      07-02-2022, 02:50 PM   #18329
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The F80 Apex Taxi is back! And replacing the G80 M3.

So the G80 is too heavy which means components are breaking like driveshaft, brakes and tires and according to the drivers you get no feedback in it compared to the F80 and the G80 gearbox sucks compared to it as well. Throttle response is also more positive for the F80.

Customers liked F80 more than G80, of those who tried both
Sounds like a little nonsense to me (…the objective allegations, not the subjective statements). If the G8X is too heavy, what does that say about everything else in its category?!? I think if there were a significant breakdown with powertrain components, people would be complaining left and right like they did with the prior ///M cars (..e.g…differential issues with the E9X, vanos issues with the E46/E9X, etc etc.). You've got people making massive power with the S58 and having no issues like that. People complain about brakes after long track sessions, but the brakes have limitations; they are a compromise. They aren't a full blown track set-up. They are a trackable street set-up. Hell, people complain about the 992 Carrera S' brakes at the track too.
I mean, everything in this category is heavy and become increasingly so.

It's probably not so much weight alone being the issue but the components having increasing wear while tracking due to it compared to their previous vehicles making maintenance a shitshow for their intents and purposes, which is what they state as well.

How much power the car makes is not a issue and increasing the power does not equal to it handling the pressure of hard tracking 20-30+ laps on the ring a day.

Pretty sure they know how brakes work as well, considering their job.
Weight will be a huge factor there.

The drivers and customers both like the previous generation which is saying something too.
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      07-02-2022, 04:56 PM   #18330
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Modding is exactly up to the person and their specific taste. That is what modding is about. Don't push your ideas on others if you don't agree.
Oh the irony (make sure you Google it)
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Modding is exactly up to the person and their specific taste. That is what modding is about. Don't push your ideas on others if you don't agree.
Oh the irony (make sure you Google it)
That's all you got?

Telling someone to Google the word "irony"? Despite how many of us, especially OGs of the forums, called you on that post, you tell me to Google "irony"?

Are you kidding? Do you know what OEM+ actually means? He lowered his car with wheels. It isn't a freaking rocket bunny build. Get over it.

You ignored about 4-5 posts calling you out just only to reply to me you wuss.
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      07-02-2022, 07:26 PM   #18332
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Me and my buddies this morning. Half and half lol
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      07-02-2022, 10:37 PM   #18333
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Me and my buddies this morning. Half and half lol
The GT3 and those gold wheels is pure sex on wheels.
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Should have maybe gone for that myself… hm
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The GT3 and those gold wheels is pure sex on wheels.
They do look good. They might fit my car lol
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      07-02-2022, 11:35 PM   #18336
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What color did you pick?
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      07-03-2022, 12:08 AM   #18337
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Regular black lol.

Didn't want to spend more.
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Regular black lol.

Didn't want to spend more.
Nice. Don't they charge more for black calipers
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Nice. Don't they charge more for black calipers
Yeah lol.

I actually didn't do it, I was going to when my other build didn't pan out. My plan with my GT4 initially was to match the yellow calipers of the PCCBs on the interior too by doing yellow dials, chrono and full yellow stitching everywhere.

However, mid of 2021 build, Porsche in their infinite wisdom, changed it up. Only the Spyder can have the yellow gauges and dials. While the GT4 can have the White gauges and dials.

I was too afraid of it looking weird with yellow stitching and white gauges and dials so i just went full chalk stitching and white dials w/ "regular" yellow PCCBs instead.
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      07-03-2022, 09:21 PM   #18345
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Good grief. That wing is crazy.

Little bit of M2 in there as well. Poor thing didn't have a chance.

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Good grief. That wing is crazy.

Little bit of M2 in there as well. Poor thing didn't have a chance.

As much as I love and appreciate Porsche, the GT3 RS' rear wing is too much for me. It just looks utterly ridiculous regardless of functionality. The revised duckbill is hot shit though.
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As much as I love and appreciate Porsche, the GT3 RS' rear wing is too much for me. It just looks utterly ridiculous regardless of functionality. The revised duckbill is hot shit though.
Think Porsche does the whole, "Function over Form" a bit too extreme lately. The car looks like a transformer in drag, which I don't know if it is a good or bad thing.

I have heard a few 992 GT3s lately and they are all pretty tame when it comes to stock sound. All the environmental stuff pretty much murdered the noise of the car (something I'm familiar with atm...).
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NGL I love how unabashedly function focused the 992 GT3RS is - kind of refreshing given how many manufacturers are more focused on making a fashion statement these days (*cough cough M performance parts*)
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