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Thanks for sharing! This makes me even more excited about trying it out.
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09-16-2020, 08:16 PM | #46 |
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Hey guys, sorry for the dumb question but what’s the advantage of this over the traditional systems like an AIM dash with sensors and smartycam, with the aim analysis software?
Is it because it’s cheaper? Or is there some type of new analysis it opens up? |
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[QUOTE=nicknaz;26691927]Hey guys, sorry for the dumb question but what’s the advantage of this over the traditional systems like an AIM dash with sensors and smartycam, with the aim analysis software?
Nothing other than it’s requires no effort and the video and data is available at the end of the session. If you own all that stuff it probably wouldn’t make sense.
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I think the "issue" is that this is a new approach to coaching, and people are comparing (in advance) the capabilities with existing systems that collect telemetry from the car itself and present that in a format that then requires human interpretation in order to determine actions that the Catalyst is already determining itself ... i.e later braking, turn in points, acceleration out of corners etc... |
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AIM/VBox and similar systems are really data-first approaches. Even for a very technically savvy person, it takes a lot of brainpower to download the data, and go through the data to figure out what you need to do next. I've had my AIM system for over 8 years and still consider myself a newbie. Garmin is really more of a coaching system first. It's purpose is to provide quick analysis to help you find more time/speed around the track. It might not offer the granular data/video analysis from the AIM/VBoxes of the world, but it makes up for it in providing quick bitesized suggestions for improvement. I'm really eager to get my seat time with the system. I'm planning to take a Fri/Mon off just to bring it out to my home track and tinker with it more. The fact that so many people are excited about it, gives me a lot of hope.
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Is that it or are there key features that’s more nuanced (I didn’t view the 30 minute vids in the thread, so thank you for the tl dr) Edit: Sc Trojan, I don’t disagree on the aim. I got coaching on how to use it from several people and still find it a bit annoying to use . The granularity of the data is amazing through |
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What Catalyst offers is real time, easy to use information vs lots of data that requires some level of expertise to interpret correctly and the those are after the fact (except for limited +/- etc) Just received Catalyst and will try this weekend. |
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I posted som videos filming the Catalyst screen and driving https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1754996&page=3
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I used mine for the first time on Saturday @ Laguna Seca.
- First Session: No coaching just baseline, matched my last day at Laguna Seca within 1/10th of a second on laps without or minimal traffic. - Second Session: Basic coaching enabled, "added" the 3 opportunities the review recommended after Session 1. Basic coaching only had coaching for the opportunities I had selected during review and not other turns. After 3 laps of warming up tires and low traffic I dropped almost 2 seconds and had 3 subsequent laps with lap times within 2/10ths of each other. Feedback as to wether or not I had followed the advice was immediate after the corner, I found this extremely helpful. - Third Session: Turned on advanced coaching, it made a lot more coaching guidance on turns beyond the ones I had added to coaching during review. It also made recommendations about braking intensity and not just braking distances. Unfortunately this session had plenty of traffic and hit fuel reserve midway through the session. - Fourth Session: Advanced coaching still, dropped another half second after warming up tires. I'm impressed by the coaching and immediate feedback. Post session review was super simple, the interface takes a few minutes to figure out how it's broken down into line, braking, and speed. Very easy to digest once you figure this out. Next up is Sonoma raceway on Sunday. |
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Saw on other forums that the part of the video image that gets blocked by suction mount is near the top and doesn't affect the performance in anyway
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Sounds like a great coaching and learning device! Less so for detailed data analysis and lap comparisons with friends. This plus an AIM Solo 2 DL may make a great combination: instant coaching and between session feedback on the Catalyst; data logging, detailed offline lap analysis, and lap comparisons with Track Attack or similar using AIM data. With the raw video available on the Catalyst, you should be able to overlay the AIM data with Race Render. That would be an expensive combination though!
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Congrats on the time though. Once you cross the 1:45 barrier, you really start moving at Laguna |
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