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      01-23-2018, 08:41 AM   #331
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Nice Jeep! I recently turned in my JGC Summit w/ Hemi (and moved on from my M4 ZCP). I was considering the SRT but the lease rates were not competitive. Did you lease or purchase it? Rare vehicle even in my area. Enjoy it.
Itís a lease. The sticker was the same as my M3 (76k), I put less down (4K to cover taxes and tags), went for the 15k mile option (residual dropped to .52), and my monthly payment is about $100 more than M. I also used a Jeep control number from a family member which saved me 2% off MSRP.

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On a side note: I've never used a car broker. What advantages do they provide? Do you save money? What's the primary reason for using one?
Brokers are able to locate specific cars if your dealer cant/wonít. You do usually save money. Brokers generally deal directly with fleet salesman at dealerships and are able to rates/programs which general salesmanís arenít aware of. For my M, I was told by three different dealerships they couldnít find the color and interior combination I wanted. My broker found it, secured it, and had it delivered to me with a salesman from Bmw go over the car. I also purchased Tire and wheel insurance directly through my broker which was half the price of Bmw. If youíre thinking about using one, you still need to visit the dealership to look at a few vehicles and figure out where you need to be pricewise. Then I usually turn the reins over to the broker and have him do the rest.



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This SUV has some serious power. It was after a while I had someone who could stay on the tail of M. Felt nice lol.

But V8 and must consume a lot of gas. With that said, we don't really care about gas do we?
It has an Eco (4 cylinder) mode!
Is there a catch with using a broker? Sounds like a convenient service, why don't more people use them?
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      01-23-2018, 02:44 PM   #332
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After 3 years in an F series I went back to the slower more visceral E92. I am enjoying it very much but I am considering trading it in on a GT350. It kinda seems like the natural progression from the e92 and what the M4 should have been engine wise.

Above: the racing stripe is an option and can be easily removed.

I see more Gt-Rs riding around than I do GT350. Youll pull all the teenage boys to you in the Gt-R tho.
Agreed 100% on racing stripe....there is nothing about the car that would stop me from buying it.

Very well could be a Ford garage (for my side of the garage) me by fall.....a GT350 and a Raptor.

I agree 100% on the teenage boys. I was pulling out of work when I had mine and a car full of teenagers were looking at my car and plowed right in the back of a slower car in front of them. Felt terrible for them but they acted like the just saw Jesus Christ in person.
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      01-23-2018, 06:15 PM   #333
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Well my lease is up next month and I have a 2018 911 on order for a May delivery date.I will miss my m4 its been an awesome car and I will definitely
miss my MT as my 911 will have a PDK.
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Just got my M4 so this might be jumping the gun a bit... but I want to add a TTRS as a winter duty car. Fast audis make great winter cars.
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      01-24-2018, 08:10 PM   #335
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Is there a catch with using a broker? Sounds like a convenient service, why don't more people use them?
Yes. Thereís always a catch. If you prefer to be hassled at the dealship, waste your time with ignorant salesman, and want to be treated like another number, the broker isnít for you. Contact my guy if youíre interested. Joe at AMG lease, search Instagram or google.
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The mid-engine corvette, unless gm totally drops the ball on it.
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      01-29-2018, 06:32 PM   #337
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The mid-engine corvette, unless gm totally drops the ball on it.
50/50 chance they will

I mean look at the new ZR1, nothing groundbreaking about. Just a souped up Z06 with more aero and better cooling so shouldn't overheat like the Z06.
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Well my lease is up next month and I have a 2018 911 on order for a May delivery date.I will miss my m4 its been an awesome car and I will definitely
miss my MT as my 911 will have a PDK.
Congrats. Great choice.
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Just got my M4 so I don't foresee my replacing it in the next 5 or so years BUT I'd like to get into a Mclaren next depending on the children forecast haha
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Just got my M4 so this might be jumping the gun a bit... but I want to add a TTRS as a winter duty car. Fast audis make great winter cars.
I would love an RS3 (maybe for all kinds of driving) but it would be especially nice to have one in the winter months.
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Yes. Thereís always a catch. If you prefer to be hassled at the dealship, waste your time with ignorant salesman, and want to be treated like another number, the broker isnít for you. Contact my guy if youíre interested. Joe at AMG lease, search Instagram or google.
Not to derail the thread - but what does a broker do in a car lease circumstance? Just handle the overall paperwork/transaction aspect of the deal? Or can you get a better payment by going through one?

I looked at their website for a couple of minutes and it wasn't immediately clear to me.
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Yes. Thereís always a catch. If you prefer to be hassled at the dealship, waste your time with ignorant salesman, and want to be treated like another number, the broker isnít for you. Contact my guy if youíre interested. Joe at AMG lease, search Instagram or google.
Not to derail the thread - but what does a broker do in a car lease circumstance? Just handle the overall paperwork/transaction aspect of the deal? Or can you get a better payment by going through one?

I looked at their website for a couple of minutes and it wasn't immediately clear to me.
Presumably they work with a network of dealers to find you the best deal on the car you want. Some people swear by them. I have always thought of them as a middle man that needs to also make money.
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Yes. Thereís always a catch. If you prefer to be hassled at the dealship, waste your time with ignorant salesman, and want to be treated like another number, the broker isnít for you. Contact my guy if youíre interested. Joe at AMG lease, search Instagram or google.
Not to derail the thread - but what does a broker do in a car lease circumstance? Just handle the overall paperwork/transaction aspect of the deal? Or can you get a better payment by going through one?

I looked at their website for a couple of minutes and it wasn't immediately clear to me.
Presumably they work with a network of dealers to find you the best deal on the car you want. Some people swear by them. I have always thought of them as a middle man that needs to also make money.
Considering the amount of time it takes to find a car then haggle with the dealer, $500 seems like a reasonable amount to spend. If that is indeed all they charge.
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Some of you guys must have been way underbudget swapping from a M3 to a GT3.

Lol
Crytpo currencies are making a lot of people serious dough.

I still will be heading backwards with my next car, but I won't be selling the F80 so I'm probably an anomaly. Cars are getting too digital and the number of cars I will want will shrink every year from here on out. I prefer to burn stuff with my cars, and I'm not talking about THAT! No EV's for this guy.

There is still nothing with 4 door's I'd rather have, and 2 door cars are so tough right now with everything from E90 M3's to totally splurging on a 911.

RS3 is intriguing, but picturing myself trading in my F80 for it stops before I get too far into that thought. It just would never happen.
Well, not in the last couple mths. Lol

I'm all in on ICX though. If all goes according to plan, a GT3 might be in my cards by EOY
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Yes. Thereís always a catch. If you prefer to be hassled at the dealship, waste your time with ignorant salesman, and want to be treated like another number, the broker isnít for you. Contact my guy if youíre interested. Joe at AMG lease, search Instagram or google.
Not to derail the thread - but what does a broker do in a car lease circumstance? Just handle the overall paperwork/transaction aspect of the deal? Or can you get a better payment by going through one?

I looked at their website for a couple of minutes and it wasn't immediately clear to me.
Presumably they work with a network of dealers to find you the best deal on the car you want. Some people swear by them. I have always thought of them as a middle man that needs to also make money.
Considering the amount of time it takes to find a car then haggle with the dealer, $500 seems like a reasonable amount to spend. If that is indeed all they charge.
Yes, if they are actually getting you pricing equal to or better than what you would get on your own. But there is no way to really know that unless you invest the time researching and haggling yourself. I have no way of knowing what arrangements a broker may have with dealers.
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Yes, if they are actually getting you pricing equal to or better than what you would get on your own. But there is no way to really know that unless you invest the time researching and haggling yourself. I have no way of knowing what arrangements a broker may have with dealers.
Hence why you price check at the dealer and then enlist the help of a broker to get you a better deal. My broker explained to me his money is made from the dealership, the same way a salesmen would make his commission. Most brokers have preferred dealers with their ďgo-toĒ guys on the inside. Mine was an Audi salesman for 8 years prior to venturing off on his own. He kept his network and it has only grown since then. Itís like doing your taxes or buying a house, sure you can do it on your own, but realtors and CPAs make the process much easier and usually can save you money.
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Hence why you price check at the dealer and then enlist the help of a broker to get you a better deal. My broker explained to me his money is made from the dealership, the same way a salesmen would make his commission. Most brokers have preferred dealers with their “go-to” guys on the inside. Mine was an Audi salesman for 8 years prior to venturing off on his own. He kept his network and it has only grown since then. It’s like doing your taxes or buying a house, sure you can do it on your own, but realtors and CPAs make the process much easier and usually can save you money.
There is no realistic way to simply check pricing at a dealer without negotiating. No dealer gives you the best price when you ask “how much”. More likely than not, you only know the real price you can get by checking and negotiating with multiple dealers. So if you use a broker, you either need to trust them implicitly or do so much work that you may as well negotiate yourself. Glad it works for you but I just haven’t come across anyone that I would consider trusting like that. Maybe if I had a close friend or relative doing it, but personally it would be difficult for me to get comfortable with a former car salesman who left a dealership to go out on his own to sell cars. I do know people who use them and like them.

I also don’t think very highly of realtors so I guess it’s just me.
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Presumably they work with a network of dealers to find you the best deal on the car you want. Some people swear by them. I have always thought of them as a middle man that needs to also make money.
Right - that's what I would have thought as well...so in order for that middle man to make a decent cut, the "deals" would have to be pretty good overall.

I actually enjoy the haggling process - it can be fun.
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Most likely M2 competition with the S55 engine. After that I might be old enough for a 911. (J/K).


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The 911 GTS is a wonderful car - congratulations! Just curious, why did you not order a MT? I will probably end up with a Porsche at some point simply because they (hopefully) will continue to offer MTs.
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