Good Midpipe for MPE?

[LOW4LYF]

Originally Posted by wdskukm3

So the Fab Speed will bolt right onto the MPE

Yes

[Justin.AutoTalent]

Originally Posted by danniexi

i think those (myself included) that own the MPE want to keep the rear portion completely intact and avoid cutting anything for eventual resale value.

fitting the MPE to accommodate the AA would equal to clamps on clamps on clamps.

Everyone has their own thoughts, at the end of the day if an exhaust is clamped and installed properly you're not going to see an issue. Of course, People would prefer less clamps, but most exhausts for this car are already in multiple sections that require clamping.

[Justin.AutoTalent]

Originally Posted by idrg2016

AA mid pipe or bootmod3 for sound?

Bootmod3 will give you custom burbles, but AA mid pipe will change the tone and provide a little bit more sound with the secondary cat delete.

[itrocks4u]

So AA midpipe works works with MPE?

[drgmt]

Fabspeed with the MPE is a clean and easy install. Improves the sound dramatically.

If I had a stock competition exhaust - AA midpipe would be my choice.

[danniexi]

Originally Posted by Justin.AutoTalent

Everyone has their own thoughts, at the end of the day if an exhaust is clamped and installed properly you're not going to see an issue. Of course, People would prefer less clamps, but most exhausts for this car are already in multiple sections that require clamping.

of course! it's never about functionality/fitment issue, but more of a "keeping the OEM part as original as possible" type deal. personal preference and me being anal i guess. i just want to keep the $4K exhaust untouched to mitigate any misunderstanding when potentially selling it later on. for those who dont mind, AA will fit perfect fine and id say go for it.

[SanchoDivine]

Originally Posted by Justin.AutoTalent

Everyone has their own thoughts, at the end of the day if an exhaust is clamped and installed properly you're not going to see an issue. Of course, People would prefer less clamps, but most exhausts for this car are already in multiple sections that require clamping.

Some MPEs have been known to need replacement via warranty due to cracking. Good luck to anyone who needs to use a warranty on their MPE if they cut it to use the AA midpipe. It's a good solution for stock exhaust where that is not an issue but a reversible option for the MPE midpipe would be more ideal.

[Justin.AutoTalent]

Originally Posted by itrocks4u

So AA midpipe works works with MPE?

Yes it does

Originally Posted by SanchoDivine

Some MPEs have been known to need replacement via warranty due to cracking. Good luck to anyone who needs to use a warranty on their MPE if they cut it to use the AA midpipe. It's a good solution for stock exhaust where that is not an issue but a reversible option for the MPE midpipe would be more ideal.

MPE is only under warranty if installed at a dealership and purchased through BMW, just to put this out in case people did not know.

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by Justin.AutoTalent

MPE is only under warranty if installed at a dealership and purchased through BMW, just to put this out in case people did not know.

Not true, BMW will cover product failure (and sometimes labor) if clearly under warranty, even for DIY as long as you have original receipt from dealership.

Last MPE failure we saw had both exhaust and labor covered by BMW, but required car come in completely stock (no 3rd party aftermarket parts).

[Justin.AutoTalent]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Not true, BMW will cover product failure (and sometimes labor) if clearly under warranty, even for DIY as long as you have original receipt from dealership.

Last MPE failure we saw had both exhaust and labor covered by BMW, but required car come in completely stock (no 3rd party aftermarket parts).

Love your input Tom.

The most recent case that I've seen in our shop, the dealer would not replace the MPE because it was not dealer installed...

We all know that Tom's word is the law around here though.

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by Justin.AutoTalent

Love your input Tom.

The most recent case that I've seen in our shop, the dealer would not replace the MPE because it was not dealer installed...

We all know that Tom's word is the law around here though.

Might want to look into another dealer.

[Justin.AutoTalent]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Might want to look into another dealer.

[SanchoDivine]

Originally Posted by Justin.AutoTalent

Love your input Tom.

The most recent case that I've seen in our shop, the dealer would not replace the MPE because it was not dealer installed...

We all know that Tom's word is the law around here though.

Warranty has to be honored if you can prove a certified professional performed service and the service (and/or aftermarket part) was not the cause for needing warranty.

You can actually have issues covered under warranty even if you have done all the schedule preventative maintenance somewhere other than the dealership.

It's much easier/safer to do everything at the dealership to avoid finger pointing and blame shifting that makes it difficult to get dealerships to honor warranty.

In agreement with you, people should highly consider both purchasing and installing MPE by BMW. However, to make it sound even better, folks should go plug and play midpipe and not cut or otherwise modify their MPE.

[drgmt]

Originally Posted by Justin.AutoTalent

Love your input Tom.

The most recent case that I've seen in our shop, the dealer would not replace the MPE because it was not dealer installed...

We all know that Tom's word is the law around here though.

You are correct.

The official BMW position here in Australia (after checking with them) is that the MPE must have original purchase receipt and be installed by an authorised service centre - which is basically the dealer.

You might get away with it if you are lucky - but if you buy the MPE - just make life easy for yourself and get the dealer to install it.

[drgmt]

Originally Posted by SanchoDivine

Warranty has to be honored if you can prove a certified professional performed service and the service (and/or aftermarket part) was not the cause for needing warranty.

You can actually have issues covered under warranty even if you have done all the schedule preventative maintenance somewhere other than the dealership.

It's much easier/safer to do everything at the dealership to avoid finger pointing and blame shifting that makes it difficult to get dealerships to honor warranty.

In agreement with you, people should highly consider both purchasing and installing MPE by BMW. However, to make it sound even better, folks should go plug and play midpipe and not cut or otherwise modify their MPE.

I took your advice and went with the fabspeed xpipe. It's made a massive difference to the exhaust note - in a good way.

[domino_z]

Fabspeed is only pnp solution here

I went down route of trying to mod a milltek midpipe to fit, just not worth it

If the fabspeed was a bit cheaper it'd be an easy decision

I had an e46 m3, proper euro spec, I like the rasp

[ssgm1x]

Originally Posted by drgmt

I took your advice and went with the fabspeed xpipe. It's made a massive difference to the exhaust note - in a good way.

Any sound clips? I thought deleting secondaries would give a lot of Rasp?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by ssgm1x

Any sound clips? I thought deleting secondaries would give a lot of Rasp?

+1 for sound clip

[FLOSS M]

Originally Posted by wdskukm3

So the Fab Speed will bolt right onto the MPE

Yes ! That's the benefit of the Fabspeed Midpipe - no cutting , direct bolt in.

[ssgm1x]

Does anybody here have Stock DP w/ MPE with Vibrant Resonators ? Has this ever been done...

[moonshine89]

Where's the vid for aa mid and mpe?

[Justin.AutoTalent]

Originally Posted by moonshine89

Where's the vid for aa mid and mpe?

Probably not the best video but here's my car when I had MPE plus active mid pipe and vrsf Downpipe