Camber plates

[njzn2003]

Best camber plates to get?

Want to be around -2 camber nothing too crazy but have been told plenty of different brands and don’t know which one to go with.

[b_w.]

I liked the ground control plates. Vorshlag are also popular. Lots of YouTube videos on the various options.

[M3SQRD]

Ground control, Vorshlag and Millway are the most commonly used. Millway has a street version which matches your primary usage need. I personally use GC.

[sdhasher21]

I’ve run Vorschlag on my last two cars. Have had great experiences with them. No NVH on either.

[gunsmoker]

This is what you need: https://www.millway.se/camber-plates...mw-m2c-m4.html

[M 4 FUN]

I would choose an adjustable control arm instead. Then you can keep the damped stock top mount and avoid the clunk that you will get in the future from the badly designed top mounts with bearing laying flat which is actually wrong. Another solution that i use is an eccentric caster bushing. Then you can increase caster which gives you more camber on turn-in, just when you need it.

[b_w.]

Originally Posted by M 4 FUN

I would choose an adjustable control arm instead. Then you can keep the damped stock top mount and avoid the clunk that you will get in the future from the badly designed top mounts with bearing laying flat which is actually wrong. Another solution that i use is an eccentric caster bushing. Then you can increase caster which gives you more camber on turn-in, just when you need it.

not practical if you want to switch between street and track camber settings.

[RugbyBro]

Millway for street then track, Vorschlag for track then street. I steer clear of GC after constantly replacing their bearings.

I would advise against an adjustable control arm as that will introduce its own types of NVH and potential issues.

[FrankMstein]

Our very own FaRKle!

[FrankMstein]

FaRKle! Which one did you end up with?

[Monkey Throttle]

I hated my Vorschlag camber plates. Had em installed by a reputable shop who simultaneously did the alignment.

Hated the way it made the car feel. As soon as I took them off the car was amazing again.

[FaRKle!]

Originally Posted by FrankMstein

FaRKle! Which one did you end up with?

I run Millway street plates (original version) on my F31 daily driver (have had them on a hair over 4yrs now) and Vorshlag on my weekend/track M2C.

I still have the SPL LCA on the car too, but would be a bit hesitant to recommend those with the recent bolt/stud failures and no real FA data released.

[FrankMstein]

Originally Posted by FaRKle!

recent bolt/stud failures

What's happening??

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by FrankMstein

What's happening??

Bolt bending and bolt failures

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...97&postcount=1

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by M 4 FUN

I would choose an adjustable control arm instead. Then you can keep the damped stock top mount and avoid the clunk that you will get in the future from the badly designed top mounts with bearing laying flat which is actually wrong. Another solution that i use is an eccentric caster bushing. Then you can increase caster which gives you more camber on turn-in, just when you need it.

Camber gain from caster comes from large steering inputs. There’s little to no gain in higher speed corners. I wouldn’t rely on caster to provide the proper amount of required camber.

[F80Dre]

Selling a never used set of GC plates for factory spring diameter if interestead. Thanks!

[aka Hootie]

I use Vorshlag and have no issues, track or street.

[M 4 FUN]

Originally Posted by b_w.

not practical if you want to switch between street and track camber settings.

No, if you do that.

[M 4 FUN]

Originally Posted by M3SQRD

Camber gain from caster comes from large steering inputs. There’s little to no gain in higher speed corners. I wouldn’t rely on caster to provide the proper amount of required camber.

That is correct, but you don't use so much steering input in fast corners on the other hand. Combined with an adjustable control arm it works fine

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by M 4 FUN

That is correct, but you don't use so much steering input in fast corners on the other hand. Combined with an adjustable control arm it works fine

My point was you can’t count on caster to provide the proper static/dynamic camber for all corners including slow corners. We differ on where the static camber should come from. Adjusting camber with a lower control arm minimizes the tire-strut clearance. Monoballs are designed to withstand a side loading and their primary purpose is to release rotational degrees of freedom (moments/torques) so that only axial and shear loads are reacted in a structural joint. Using a monoball in a camber plate is a nonissue.