Insane performance crank hub?

SflBimmer8484 · 12-07-2021, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by thestimp

Mechanical Engineer : Pilot bore sprockets like the crank hub are reliant on the collective teeth to keep continuing rotational force, the size of the teeth is dependent on the chain used or vice versa. The difference in the sprocket width/dimensions is negligible if the overall profile is fitting to the chain. Its up to the machine shop CNC process to determine the optimal tooth size for manufacturing while keeping the needed tooth size for application.

tl;DR look is different because different people machined it and tolerances were probably laxed because the profile was fine either way.

SflBimmer8484 · 10-05-2022, 11:32 PM

Update - 65k miles and 600 whp and still going strong!

mike@x-ph.com · 10-06-2022, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SflBimmer8484

Update - 65k miles and 600 whp and still going strong!

Marioec · 04-27-2023, 12:34 PM

Is Vargas and Kies Motorsport Crank Bolt Capture compatable with the Insane 2 and 4 pin Crank hub.

chetrickerman · 04-27-2023, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marioec

Is Vargas and Kies Motorsport Crank Bolt Capture compatable with the Insane 2 and 4 pin Crank hub.

Yes. I am running a vargas CBC with my insane crank hub.

mike@x-ph.com · 04-27-2023, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Marioec

Is Vargas and Kies Motorsport Crank Bolt Capture compatable with the Insane 2 and 4 pin Crank hub.

All reliable, we have not had any issues with Vargas or Insane and we have been selling it for years

Marioec · 04-27-2023, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

All reliable, we have not had any issues with Vargas or Insane and we have been selling it for years

Any promo codes

mike@x-ph.com · 04-27-2023, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Marioec

Any promo codes

dm sent

Marioec · 04-29-2023, 01:22 PM

What horse power rating those the 2 pin Insane crank hub have ? Will it hold 750hp ?

I'm trying to decide between 2 or 4 pin

Marioec · 05-10-2023, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Marioec

What horse power rating those the 2 pin Insane crank hub have ? Will it hold 750hp ?

I'm trying to decide between 2 or 4 pin

Anyone know the answer

TheMaster1971NL · 05-10-2023, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Marioec

Anyone know the answer

Yessss!!

chetrickerman · 05-11-2023, 06:45 PM

Back when Maximum PSI was making crank hubs, their 2 pin version had zero issues at 1150 whp. The insane hub is extremely similar so its not farfetched to say it should be able to withstand the same stress levels.

SflBimmer8484 · 05-12-2023, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Marioec

Anyone know the answer

This is from their website description

Our Single Crank Hub kits are designed and manufactured in Lithuania and made from a solid block of thermally absorbed, heat treated steel and milled on a 5 axis precision CNC machine to create what we believe to be the strongest crank hub kit on the market today!

Our crank hub is offered in a 2 pin and upgraded 4 pin design for those looking push their S55 to the limits while having greater peace of mind. Please keep in mind neither version has had a known failure with 1200+ vehicles on the road today and counting. Our 2 pin crank hub has also been tested up to 1000+ whp without issue.

This kit includes all the necessary components to successfully replace the stock OEM crank hub with our single piece crank hub. Our kit now includes Hardened crankshaft damper bolts at no additional charge.

Idfkman · 05-13-2023, 06:16 AM

Has anyone tried out the euroklaase 4 pin crank hub? Attractive price.

https://euroklasse.com/products/euro...nned-crank-hub

ralphsmithiii · 05-14-2023, 11:34 AM

Throwing my first post into the hat =). I just had my crank hub done by one of my local shops here in the Tampa Bay area and while they will install most of the brand name options, their head mechanic prefers the Insane 2 pin one due to its simple design and ease of install and they haven't had one fail as of date. My end goal is to be round the 700whp/640ishtq on upgraded turbos and Flex 93/E85 so I went with their recommendation.

Marioec · 05-16-2023, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ralphsmithiii

Throwing my first post into the hat =). I just had my crank hub done by one of my local shops here in the Tampa Bay area and while they will install most of the brand name options, their head mechanic prefers the Insane 2 pin one due to its simple design and ease of install and they haven't had one fail as of date. My end goal is to be round the 700whp/640ishtq on upgraded turbos and Flex 93/E85 so I went with their recommendation.

Good to know thanks for the feedback. If you don't mind me asking how much did they charge you for the crank hub job.

Tech567 · 05-19-2023, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Idfkman

Has anyone tried out the euroklaase 4 pin crank hub? Attractive price.

https://euroklasse.com/products/euro...nned-crank-hub

You get what you pay for. Why are some hubs significantly cheaper than others? Cause they’re finding cheaper material and methods to do so.

Tech567 · 05-19-2023, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Marioec

Good to know thanks for the feedback. If you don't mind me asking how much did they charge you for the crank hub job.

The going rate I guess depends on your area. Go with a shop that’s done plenty, not the ones that do it cheapest. $3000-$4000
Seems to be the going rate depending on hub. Insane crankhub literally one of the OGs hub companies.

m5_mbb7 · 05-20-2023, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tech567

The going rate I guess depends on your area. Go with a shop that’s done plenty, not the ones that do it cheapest. $3000-$4000
Seems to be the going rate depending on hub. Insane crankhub literally one of the OGs hub companies.

I know a shop in Orange County that has done more crank hubs than anyone else and will do it for $2,000 so I’m not sure if your comment of “going more expensive” applies in this case. However that is for Vargas which is slightly easier to install than pinned hubs.

ralphsmithiii · 05-20-2023, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Marioec

Good to know thanks for the feedback. If you don't mind me asking how much did they charge you for the crank hub job.

I checked out 2 local shops before making the decision. One had their special at $3800 installed (oil change, etc included) while the other was running theirs at $3600. Another shop here in Florida’s has had a special before at $3199 installed and all three do them all the time.

I’ve seen one shop in Cali however do them for I believe <$2k…

Tech567 · 05-20-2023, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by m5_mbb7

I know a shop in Orange County that has done more crank hubs than anyone else and will do it for $2,000 so I’m not sure if your comment of “going more expensive” applies in this case. However that is for Vargas which is slightly easier to install than pinned hubs.

Never said to “go more expensive.” But i do believe in you get what you pay for and $2000 for a hub install seems super low. Must be cutting corners somewhere. Some shops are now doing hubs without removing oil pan… which seems dumb since oil pans eventually leak and you pay twice as much to do it another visit.

Tech567 · 05-25-2023, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ralphsmithiii

I checked out 2 local shops before making the decision. One had their special at $3800 installed (oil change, etc included) while the other was running theirs at $3600. Another shop here in Florida’s has had a special before at $3199 installed and all three do them all the time.

I’ve seen one shop in Cali however do them for I believe <$2k…

Check it out

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