2018 BMW M4 and 4 Series LCI Officially Revealed

[Unkle Steve]

Originally Posted by Blindside_137

Yea I'm sorry.

BMW dropped the ball. OSS got it right and this was over a year ago now, but this blows the LCI away. I much prefer the angled hexagon shape to the LCI shape. That horizontal line doesn't flow at all with the bumper like these do.

IMO it will take a bit of time for the new design to grow on to some other people.

The circular design has and always will look sporty and nostalgic, but it is clear to me that this new design has a more modern and futuristic look; this definitely goes hand-in-hand with the 'image' that BMW is striving for. The curves on the car are certainly accentuated with these new headlights.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Unkle Steve

IMO it will take a bit of time for the new design to grow on to some other people.

The circular design has and always will look sporty and nostalgic, but it is clear to me that this new design has a more modern and futuristic look; this definitely goes hand-in-hand with the 'image' that BMW is striving for. The curves on the car are certainly accentuated with these new headlights.

It looks like how I would draw stick figure cow balls.

[dv8pdx]

Originally Posted by dmk08

You really think so or sarcasm? I think it looks so much worse than the bmw signature halos. This picture really shows that off.

I do like the new lights but I feel its missing the aggressive eye brow they've had for a while now. Because the new LED blinker sits where the eye brow was the lights look incomplete. If BMW could make the eye brow white and blink yellow I think they would look really good and have a good oncoming stance of aggression. I did some photoshop editing to add the white eye brow and it defiantly looks more complete.

[firedown31]

Originally Posted by dv8pdx

I do like the new lights but I feel its missing the aggressive eye brow they've had for a while now. Because the new LED blinker sits where the eye brow was the lights look incomplete. If BMW could make the eye brow white and blink yellow I think they would look really good and have a good oncoming stance of aggression. I did some photoshop editing to add the white eye brow and it defiantly looks more complete.
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Wow, a million times better looking. Completely agree that the eyebrow light needs to be there.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by dv8pdx

I do like the new lights but I feel its missing the aggressive eye brow they've had for a while now. Because the new LED blinker sits where the eye brow was the lights look incomplete. If BMW could make the eye brow white and blink yellow I think they would look really good and have a good oncoming stance of aggression. I did some photoshop editing to add the white eye brow and it defiantly looks more complete.
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I think they should have done they eyebrow lit by two different LED sets, one white for regular driving and then flash amber and off when signalling.

[Golfster]

The LCI looks great. Very subtle yet more aggressive and modern.

[bmellion]

Maybe I should get my 666M wheels done in black? My M3 is Sakhir already.

[itrocks4u]

Does anyone know if M3 March would be LCI 2.0?

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by itrocks4u

Does anyone know if M3 March would be LCI 2.0?

The M4 LCI goes into production in March, as does the M3 with any updates that carry over, including the headlights, available black 666M wheels, black seat logos, and whatever other minor changes apply. As I mentioned earlier, there is no LCI 2.0.

Production of both has been delayed in the US. Others have mentioned that the same applies in Canada, though I've seen claims that it is only the M4, not the M3. If you've been guaranteed an M3 allocation, that suggests the latter is the case, though the info is only as reliable as your dealership. Perhaps they can show you an official document from BMW of Canada that confirms the date?

[itrocks4u]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

The M4 LCI goes into production in March, as does the M3 with any updates that carry over, including the headlights, available black 666M wheels, black seat logos, and whatever other minor changes apply. As I mentioned earlier, there is no LCI 2.0.

Production of both has been delayed in the US. Others have mentioned that the same applies in Canada, though I've seen claims that it is only the M4, not the M3. If you've been guaranteed an M3 allocation, that suggests the latter is the case, though the info is only as reliable as your dealership. Perhaps they can show you an official document from BMW of Canada that confirms the date?

Thank you. I will see what I can find out on Monday.

[itrocks4u]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

The M4 LCI goes into production in March, as does the M3 with any updates that carry over, including the headlights, available black 666M wheels, black seat logos, and whatever other minor changes apply. As I mentioned earlier, there is no LCI 2.0.

Production of both has been delayed in the US. Others have mentioned that the same applies in Canada, though I've seen claims that it is only the M4, not the M3. If you've been guaranteed an M3 allocation, that suggests the latter is the case, though the info is only as reliable as your dealership. Perhaps they can show you an official document from BMW of Canada that confirms the date?

To clarify is March production for M3 MY2017 or MY2018?

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by itrocks4u

To clarify is March production for M3 MY2017 or MY2018?

If there is/were to be March production of Canadian M3s, they will/would be called MY2018.

In any case, as I said in my last post, the LCI M4 and updated M3 will go into production in March. Period. Regardless of what a specific region of the world's conventions are for designating vehicles' date of creation, any M3/M4 built from March forward will have the updates discussed in this thread.

[STooK]

This came as a surprise to me since bmw didn't update the headlights on the e92 and earlier M3's. It looks much better now although pre LCI didn't look bad at all. Not really worth upgrading if you own pre LCI but for new owners this is an awesome refresh.

[itrocks4u]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

If there is/were to be March production of Canadian M3s, they will/would be called MY2018.

In any case, as I said in my last post, the LCI M4 and updated M3 will go into production in March. Period. Regardless of what a specific region of the world's conventions are for designating vehicles' date of creation, any M3/M4 built from March forward will have the updates discussed in this thread.

With March production starting of M3 are individual orders starting again as well? Typically does individual orders significantly increase time?

(I'll cut down on questions after this, but I find this more informative than my dealer)

[MRCUR]

Originally Posted by itrocks4u

With March production starting of M3 are individual orders starting again as well? Typically does individual orders significantly increase time?

They should, yes. Everything Individual needs approved by BMW so your easiest way to get an answer is ask your CA to submit your options for approval.

Lead time really depends on what you're ordering. Individual exterior colors available in the regular order system only add 1-2 weeks (if any additional time at all) while others may add slightly more. Individual interior options can add weeks or months depending on scheduling.

[Wingman335]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

The M4 LCI goes into production in March, as does the M3 with any updates that carry over, including the headlights, available black 666M wheels, black seat logos, and whatever other minor changes apply. As I mentioned earlier, there is no LCI 2.0.

Production of both has been delayed in the US. Others have mentioned that the same applies in Canada, though I've seen claims that it is only the M4, not the M3. If you've been guaranteed an M3 allocation, that suggests the latter is the case, though the info is only as reliable as your dealership. Perhaps they can show you an official document from BMW of Canada that confirms the date?

Thanks for this information, mkoesel! But since the production of the M3 has been delayed for the US, I am guessing no dealer here would have any details on pricing or allocation?

I contacted 3 dealers, and I was pretty much told I'm way ahead of the game here- they won't hear anything about pricing until June- that's when I should reach out to them to find out about allocations.

I'm looking to purchase and do an ED for an M3 whenever the slots open up, so wanted to check that the dealers are not shuffling me around.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Wingman335

Thanks for this information, mkoesel! But since the production of the M3 has been delayed for the US, I am guessing no dealer here would have any details on pricing or allocation?

I would bet so, yes. More than likely this won't be made public until May. The best thing to do is hang out here on BimmerPost. Pricing and ordering details will be posted as soon as they are available.

[evolution80]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

If there is/were to be March production of Canadian M3s, they will/would be called MY2018.

In any case, as I said in my last post, the LCI M4 and updated M3 will go into production in March. Period. Regardless of what a specific region of the world's conventions are for designating vehicles' date of creation, any M3/M4 built from March forward will have the updates discussed in this thread.

that sounds good - although i could have lived with the old headlights...

i am in the process of trading in my 1M for an M3 but the dealer had no info on the changes for the M3 - he thought only the M4 would get the new headlights...

[StealthFish]

Question! If the production stop for the U.S., does that mean that production will continue at the factory in Germany since there is only one place that the M4 production models are manufactured out of for the rest of the world or where ever the models are still being produced for as a 2017 LCI model world wide? If that is true, my other question, are the models that are currently in production world wide a 2016 built even though the 2017 are not out until March for productions in the UK? Is this also why the UK does not go by MY?

I don't understand how the LCI updates are incorporated into 2017 for the 2017 models if they are building current models as we speak in 2017 , as a 2016 (again, this for world wide and not US)? Or have there been a production stopped since the end of the year 2016 which was the last M4 production model was a month ago and production will not start again until March of 2017 for the 2017 models?

Sorry if I am not understanding this correctly as I am really trying to understand this here.

Also from mkoesel's statement, if the March production is the LCI and they have been stopped on production already, means that the models that are already coming out this year will be LCI. Not sure what source he is getting this from or if he is the source, highly likely that the builds in February for the March release could be the LCI models since the G30 is already out in America and it is only end of January.

There was also a production stopped in November, December, and January as that was what my dealer stated they got from corporate.

Did anyone with an M4 build in November, December, or January? I am trying to see if this is true.

[imyopusha]

FWIW, I've been seeing these new headlights for quite some time here in Germany. They really do look MUCH better. Definitely more menacing creeping from behind on the Autobahn.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by StealthFish

Question! If the production stop for the U.S., does that mean that production will continue at the factory in Germany since there is only one place that the M4 production models are manufactured out of for the rest of the world or where ever the models are still being produced for as a 2017 LCI model world wide? If that is true, my other question, are the models that are currently in production world wide a 2016 built even though the 2017 are not out until March for productions in the UK? Is this also why the UK does not go by MY?

I don't understand how the LCI updates are incorporated into 2017 for the 2017 models if they are building current models as we speak in 2017 , as a 2016 (again, this for world wide and not US)? Or have there been a production stopped since the end of the year 2016 which was the last M4 production model was a month ago and production will not start again until March of 2017 for the 2017 models?

Sorry if I am not understanding this correctly as I am really trying to understand this here.

Also from mkoesel's statement, if the March production is the LCI and they have been stopped on production already, means that the models that are already coming out this year will be LCI. Not sure what source he is getting this from or if he is the source, highly likely that the builds in February for the March release could be the LCI models since the G30 is already out in America and it is only end of January.

There was also a production stopped in November, December, and January as that was what my dealer stated they got from corporate.

Did anyone with an M4 build in November, December, or January? I am trying to see if this is true.

There is no such thing as "Model Year" in the majority of the world, only production dates. So yes, cars produced starting March 2017 will have LCI for the rest of the world. Cars produced up to February 2017 will be 2017 production but pre-LCI.

[VancouverDCT]

Originally Posted by imyopusha

FWIW, I've been seeing these new headlights for quite some time here in Germany. They really do look MUCH better. Definitely more menacing creeping from behind on the Autobahn.

Crap, people are still talking about freaking HEADLIGHTS?
Really?

How about that powerful engine upgrade?