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Last week I put a full set of EBC RedStuff pads on to gave them a try. I was tired of the constant filth put down by the stock Textar pads, and was hoping for a little better bite during street use. I had allowed a couple days of city stop-and-go for their break in coating to wear off, and did not do a bedding process. I was going to Mpact roll racing at Pocono on Sunday. That would bed them in, and add a minor track scenario test session. Overall I am impressed!
Their abrasive "Brake In" coating did a great job of removing previous brake bedding (blue tint) from my rotors, and polished them up nice and shiny. Brake bite was extra hard while the coating was working, which lasted about two days, and I heard maybe one tiny squeak. Driving around town and to the race event I noticed good firm bite, but nothing too firm or hard. I heard no noise and felt no vibration. Up at Pocono we did 1/3mi rolls topping out about 160MPH and coming up to Turn 1. On my first run I bedded in the brakes well using a series of hard 4sec pulses, and stopping power started firm and faded a little around the sixth pulse. I was paying attention to the turn and watching for fade, so I didn't see what speed I dropped to. On subsequent runs using basic brake pulsing (2sec pumps) by foot gave me good stopping power with no fade, bringing me down from 160 to 80 quickly. Now for the "stupid test" to see where fade happens…no brake pulsing…just hold the brake and let 'em heat (they're ceramic pads). At the end of a 160 run I just kept the brakes applied hard for like 6-8sec, and there was the fade. I still had stopping power but the change was obvious. After a sec or two off-brake the stopping power came back up. These are definitely not track pads for any sort of competition, but they'll get you around for fun. Again, for street, highway or rolls these things rock! And after the day of racing, the next morning I noticed only a light gray dust, not the normal thick brown coating that Tex"Tar" leaves. The gray dust washed right off with a hose spray of water. You can't beat that.
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Glad to see another happy EBC user…
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Cool report, thanks 😎
Would you say they'd hold up nicely to hard canyon/twisties driving (nothing beyond 100 mph)? I'm thinking of replacing my brakes in about 10k miles or so (even though idrive shows more than 100k miles of life - I've heard that those aren't accurate?) and thanks to hellokitty I'm looking at the Yellowstuffs. My main goals are less brake dust and no less braking performance than OEM. The Yellowstuffs seem to meet the 2nd goal, while they generate light grey dust as opposed to the brown/grey OEM dust, so they are probably a decent fit for my needs. I'm wondering if the Redstuffs would be a downgrade from OEM on braking performance? |
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Yellows are good for less dust and daily driving street use, blue is good for higher endurance high temp runs like long canyon runs.
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As for factory wear, the stockers do last about 100K miles of regular wife/mom daily driving. My current F82 had hardly worn the stock pads or rotors after 24K mi (when I switched to EBC). My previous F80 was about 1/3 worn through pads AND rotors after 65K. My BMW mechanic buddy said the stock pads and rotors are supposed to wear down together. Metallic pads eat rotors faster, and ceramic much slower.
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Reds will be fine for "canyon driving." I've never seen someone canyon drive like they drive on the track with max speed/braking before each corner. I've managed to fade Reds pretty dangerously doing repeated high speed/max brake stops repeatedly over the course of 4mi while doing a hard bed in, but that was a very extreme case and have never come close to that in fun driving.
I'm at 62,000mi on my Reds right now, plenty of life left.
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I'm at 57k miles on my stock pads, and idrive is still telling me that I have 119k miles left on the rear pads (makes me a 'lil suspicious of it). Can't remember what the front pads life is but it's in the region of high 10ks, so maybe total life of 100k miles is about right. I wish I needn't replace the rotors but a lip seems to have formed, so I should probably do them together with the brake pads. |
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If FaRKle! is running these we've got another good sign. That's like Yoda nodding at your light saber. If you're just zipping to the next curve but not braking late and hard, and the Textars held up, then Reds should be perfect. If you were digging hard into every curve for long twisty runs, then I'd pick a more track-ish pad. As for the lip on the rotors, EBC are the exact same shape as Textar so you can skip it. The new pads sat in the stock-made grooves perfectly.
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But when you faded Yellows you were really pushing the carved corners on long twisties, right? Our buddy above wants zippy "canyon driving" but isn't ripping the curves like someone carving a canyon (maintain high revs, DSC off, feeling for traction slip, looking for marbles).
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My guess is you're nowhere near that though since you mentioned going between 2-5th gear and only up to about 80mph, since 3rd gear alone will get you above 100. I imagine having time to build up to 5th gear means your braking zones are far enough apart for reds on your drive. Completely agree.
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And maybe I don't know what canyon "carving" actually is, but I do try to brake as late as I can before the corners, though I'm sure I do so in a highly uneducated fashion. I really need to go to driving/track school and get up to speed on these things. Quote:
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Well you've got my attention.
I went on a spirited canyon drive this weekend and while the OEMs held up fine, the dust is just out of control. Finally pushed me over the edge. What is the proper part number for the Redstuff? |
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Quick question… anyone have a suggestion on where to purchase yellow stuff pads for ‘15 F83? Also I’m assuming pads are the same for coupe as they are for vert without ceramic option?
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