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      05-06-2021, 04:02 AM   #6931
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Do any companies make a better looking shift knob than OEM Carrera shifter?
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      05-06-2021, 07:08 AM   #6932
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Congrats to those jumping ship. I went from an OG M2 to a first gen Cayman S and while the M2 was commendable, the Porsche is simply in a different stratosphere as it pertains to the driving experience....and it's a measly "cheaper" P. The new 992, in any iteration, is I'm sure, worth the price tag and waiting period to acquire one.
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Dude i donít believe your actually going to buy a car I think you just like talking about buying a carÖespecially a Porsche I might have to eat my shoe.
Better chance of me buying a Porsche than a BMW. Porsche actually still makes good cars.... . I also owned a 997 C2S previously.
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Do any companies make a better looking shift knob than OEM Carrera shifter?
I assume you mean for a PDK? That's a good question, it is an odd looking thing.

I have the Porsche factory CF shifter knob for a 6MT and love it.
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That push up for up shifts and pull down for downshifts. I could never understand why Porsche does it. Along with left hand ignition switch. Not natural at all for me. But itís forgivable.
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That push up for up shifts and pull down for downshifts. I could never understand why Porsche does it. Along with left hand ignition switch. Not natural at all for me. But itís forgivable.
For the gt cars they do the opposite. I guess itís the logic of a race car driver and normal intuition
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      05-06-2021, 09:40 AM   #6937
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So I thought the 718 was exiting production this July and just found out there will be a 2022MY. If the GT4 or GTS 4.0 are available for ED next summer, I will probably go that route. Likely the latter for overall comfort. Python Green with Satin Aurum wheels over full espresso leather. The naturally aspirated engine is just too much of a draw. And my skis actually fit in the back of a 718...even the big powder skis.
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Do any companies make a better looking shift knob than OEM Carrera shifter?
I assume you mean for a PDK? That's a good question, it is an odd looking thing.

I have the Porsche factory CF shifter knob for a 6MT and love it.
I'm referring to the 7MT knob. Any photos of the OEM carbon fiber knob? I was hoping to find something similar to how BMW's M Performance knob looks.
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I'm referring to the 7MT knob. Any photos of the OEM carbon fiber knob? I was hoping to find something similar to how BMW's M Performance knob looks.
I'll take a pic later and post tonight. Dunno if it is the same as the 911s, but I'm guessing they are pretty close.
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      05-06-2021, 10:51 AM   #6940
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I'm referring to the 7MT knob. Any photos of the OEM carbon fiber knob? I was hoping to find something similar to how BMW's M Performance knob looks.
This is a go to place for OEM Porsche parts and accessories:

https://www.suncoastparts.com/

Also check out the vendors on Rennlist.
Prices are about double than comparable BMW M prices.
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      05-06-2021, 11:13 AM   #6941
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I'm referring to the 7MT knob. Any photos of the OEM carbon fiber knob? I was hoping to find something similar to how BMW's M Performance knob looks.
I'll take a pic later and post tonight. Dunno if it is the same as the 911s, but I'm guessing they are pretty close.
Thanks bro. I've never seen the carbon fiber knob before. Porsche knobs are so big.

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I'm referring to the 7MT knob. Any photos of the OEM carbon fiber knob? I was hoping to find something similar to how BMW's M Performance knob looks.
This is a go to place for OEM Porsche parts and accessories:

https://www.suncoastparts.com/

Also check out the vendors on Rennlist.
Prices are about double than comparable BMW M prices.
I'll check out Suncoast. Thanks for the link.
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Better chance of me buying a Porsche than a BMW. Porsche actually still makes good cars.... . I also owned a 997 C2S previously.
Iím sure you will end up with a P carÖ Of course i am just messing with you.

This thread has turned out to be a great source for Porsche newbies such as myself. I test drove a 718 cayman s recently, itís my first real experience driving a p car. I liked it :-).
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Better chance of me buying a Porsche than a BMW. Porsche actually still makes good cars.... . I also owned a 997 C2S previously.
I’m sure you will end up with a P car… Of course i am just messing with you.

This thread has turned out to be a great source for Porsche newbies such as myself. I test drove a 718 cayman s recently, it’s my first real experience driving a p car. I liked it :-).
I once drove and had the opportunity to buy a Cayman R and I have regretted not pulling the trigger. Instead, I have continued my revolving door of M cars. I have never driven a 911 and I'm sure they are awesome, but the Caymans I have driven have been awfully impressive.
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That push up for up shifts and pull down for downshifts. I could never understand why Porsche does it. Along with left hand ignition switch. Not natural at all for me. But it’s forgivable.
Left side ignition is because of racing heritage. Old racing starts would be who could start and get off the line first. Putting the ignition on the left meant your right hand could already be on the shifter.
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Left side ignition is because of racing heritage. Old racing starts would be who could start and get off the line first. Putting the ignition on the left meant your right hand could already be on the shifter.
I knew they were reasons behind it just dont know it until now, thanks. Yeah our Macan GTS my wife drives is heaven when I get the chance to use it. Itís just feels really solid. The little quirks are not really an issue. I just get to compare it every time I switch cars.
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      05-06-2021, 12:11 PM   #6946
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And after building equity in a muthafuckin Porsche, how many will come back to an M3/4?

This will go down as one of the greatest business disasters in performance auto history ... this is what it looks like when you lose a generation of your most loyal customers through stupidity and arrogance: you go bankrupt slowly at first, and then all at once.
Notwithstanding that BMW is clearly turning their backs on car enthusiasts, they likely don't see Porsche as a direct competitor for the M3/4 and those that have left BMW for Porsche would have done so anyway. Against true competitors like the C63, RS and those driving MSport, C43, Audi S models looking to move up, they likely think the G8x is still tops and the bugs bunny face will grow on them.
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I once drove and had the opportunity to buy a Cayman R and I have regretted not pulling the trigger. Instead, I have continued my revolving door of M cars. I have never driven a 911 and I'm sure they are awesome, but the Caymans I have driven have been awfully impressive.
I hear you man! my biggest take away from the experience is they are dramatically different cars, at least an M4 to a 2019 cayman s. P cars are absolutely next level and have become a long-term goal of mine to own one.

I say congratulations to anyone here who has owned one or about to own one, they are in a class all by themselves ÖThe niche between exotic and BMW Mercedes etc.
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Slightly off topic here. We had discussed the possibility of BMW tracking tuned ECUs.

For those G8x folks, something from an M5 enthusiast.
“ Side note: My service rep told me immediately to NOT tune this car. Apparently, BMW has a way of seeing that the ECU has been modified and that it is pinged immediately via satellite and immediately flag your car, most likely resulting in a loss of warranty. I guess there are A LOT of unhappy customers who have had this already happen.”

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1823325
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Slightly off topic here. We had discussed the possibility of BMW tracking tuned ECUs.

For those G8x folks, something from an M5 enthusiast.
" Side note: My service rep told me immediately to NOT tune this car. Apparently, BMW has a way of seeing that the ECU has been modified and that it is pinged immediately via satellite and immediately flag your car, most likely resulting in a loss of warranty. I guess there are A LOT of unhappy customers who have had this already happen."

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1823325
I expected this ever since they added OTA features to the cars.

No fun allowed anymore but I figured they've not cracked the ECUs yet?
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This thread continues to deliver! Congrats Sedan_Clan on your Porsche order! A definite improvement over your G82 order! Did you cancel it yet?

It seems the end goal is always a Porsche and I can see the allure. My dad had a 2013 Porsche Carrera 2 with PDK and on the few drives I was able to take it for a spin in anger, the entire experience was memorable, especially the engine! Very jealous of all you guys/gals getting into these cars!
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So this happened!!!! He sold his Moonstone F80 M3 about a week before my car sold. I told him I ordered the 992, and well......


....the exodus continues:
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This thread continues to deliver! Congrats Sedan_Clan on your Porsche order! A definite improvement over your G82 order! Did you cancel it yet?

It seems the end goal is always a Porsche and I can see the allure. My dad had a 2013 Porsche Carrera 2 with PDK and on the few drives I was able to take it for a spin in anger, the entire experience was memorable, especially the engine! Very jealous of all you guys/gals getting into these cars!
Yeah I canceled it, but he said he's still going to let the build continue since it'll sell.

Thanks for the well wishes Sir!
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