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If they had an aggressive-looking GT 350 available at launch with DCT then I might be interested, but for now it's still the M3 for me. |
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My gut tells me that the M4 will have a very tough time putting distance between itself and the Mustang GT on a track. We don't know how the F8x will compare in performance to the E9x yet, but certainly from the preliminary information we have now it is not going to be such a huge leap in performance such that it will leave the rest of the industry with absolutely no hope of competing. When you consider that the outgoing Boss Mustang was outperforming the E9x M3 in tests, and Ford has said the new Mustang GT has now been able to best the Boss, its clear that - whatever the car was benchmarked against - it has gotten a bump in performance as well. In the end we are talking about cars with similar power, similar weight, and similar handling after all, this new Mustang GT and new M4.
On the styling topic, I am actually a bit disappointed that the styling of the new Mustang is evolutionarily close to the outgoing model. I was hoping for a clean slate approach. I was also hoping for a smaller footprint (i.e. smaller overhangs this time around). But it is not a bad looking car by any stretch - its actually quite good looking as is the model it replaces. What the car lacks though is DCT, although they do have paddle shift now. But if Ford were to build one with DCT and throw in a higher revving Roadrunner V8 (the old one hit 7500 RPM, say they hit 8000RPM this time) it starts to get real tempting. That being said, I think the next "C63" will be tempting too, even if it has neither the DCT (it probably won't, but might) nor the high revving V8 (it definitely won't have that). Not sure why I need hold the Mustang to higher standards then; I suppose there is just that certain degree of snobbery I possess that causes that double standard. What can I say, I am not perfect. |
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I had a Mustang and E92 M3, and I'll be cross-shopping the new Mustang and new M3/M4.
From my experience the M3 was a better machine, but the Mustang was a lot more fun to own. The M3 had a few nasty rattles since new, my Mustang had none. The Mustang had a lot more options for aftermarket upgrades, and for a lot cheaper. The fact that the M3/M4 is twice the price is also not negligible. What keeps me interested in the new M3 is the four door option, being a dad. On the other hand my kid loved the Mustang but never cared about the M3. I also have to do a lot of driving at 5000 ft and above, and at that altitude, the new M3/M4 should drive circles around a naturally aspirated Mustang 5.0. |
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I do wish they had designed the car with the '69-'70 side window. It would have looked so much better and a natural progression from the last model:
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The last Mustang I was in had a really crappy interior for even the mid 20k's....but I'll reserve judgement on the new one. The last c6 I was in had a terrible interior too, but the c7 is great. Let's see how Ford does.
It also helps that the F30, at least, has some pretty obvious poor interior materials. We'll see if they are improved when the base-price doubles in the m3. |
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I'm sorry... do you have some sort of special access that has enabled you to drive the 2015 Mustang? If not, I'd advice not to count it out till you do. Maybe it will be all business as usual... but Ford seems to think that this will be a very, non-Mustang-like Mustang. and with an IRS I'm inclined to at least keep an open mind.
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12-06-2013, 04:04 PM | #77 |
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the look doesnt do it for me...
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You know I have loved BMW cars for a long time because of the special M engines, the balanced power and handling...I just think the new M3/M4 is not enough if what we have heard is true..it needed a game changer option like an electric third turbo..these domestics are getting way too close...BTW the new Z28 is gooing to kick everyones stock ass at the track in the under $100k market!
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I've seen the car in person and I'll just say that the pictures don't do it justice. I've always been a BMW diehard and I must say when I saw the car it was obvious Ford injected some Euro flair to it while keeping its muscle car heritage. The car just looks much more planted than the current one. Same length as the current one but looks much more nimble. I'm excited to test drive the V8. For those of us who dream of owning an M3 but can't afford it, the Mustang is a very strong option.
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As a caveat to the comments below, I'll likely end up with a German sports car. But some of the comments here are just insane. People - the BASE GT gets an all new suspension, new brakes, new weight distribution, and outperforms the Boss 302. Nobody here has even sat in an S550 let alone driven one. Performance packs, GT350, who knows...
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Having said that I think the new Mustang looks good and from the performance specs it should be quite fast. I bought my first Ford product ever earlier this year (2013 Explorer Limited) and I must say I am very impressed with it. Who knows how I will feel about it in 2-3 years, but so far so good. I |
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Future review very well could be:
"The 2015 Mustang GT bests the M4 in every performance category, it's fit, finish and materials used are on par with the BMW, and all for $25K less than the overpriced Bavarian" The M4 better be a game changer as this Mustang looks like it is.
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I own an E92 M3, and I love it, but I'm realistic when I say the Mustang GT is on par with performance against the M3. The only thing I wish the Mustang had was a DCT. I've driven the new 2014 Mustang. It doesn't quite have the tight finesse in the steering, but that's a minor fault. |
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