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      01-26-2015, 04:21 PM   #67
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i love it! i find it the most useful when doing say a 6th-3rd downshift on the highway for passing
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      01-26-2015, 04:33 PM   #68
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Amazing feature honestly. I driven plenty of manuals and never was the greatest at down shifting properly but man this make it so seemless and actually fun. I dont even know if i wanna use sports + mode lol
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      01-26-2015, 04:37 PM   #69
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in one word - awesome! The downshift from 2>1 is all theater, and sometimes creates some unnecessary attention.
Just curious when and why would you downshift to 1 when still rolling In my 20 odd years of driving manuals I never felt the need to shift to 1 when slowing down, not unless I was completely stopped. Always used the 1st gear more as a starting gear vs downshifting to 1 to get acceleration.
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      01-26-2015, 05:05 PM   #70
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Just curious when and why would you downshift to 1 when still rolling In my 20 odd years of driving manuals I never felt the need to shift to 1 when slowing down, not unless I was completely stopped. Always used the 1st gear more as a starting gear vs downshifting to 1 to get acceleration.
I don't know why you've never downshifted to 1st in 20 years of driving. It's rare to be sure, but I can't believe in 20 years you've not found a reason to do it.
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      01-26-2015, 05:18 PM   #71
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I thought I would not like it, as I am old school but I have to say I really like it and
its been really helpful on a few occasions. If your tracking your car just leave
it in Sport + and your good to go!

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      01-26-2015, 05:24 PM   #72
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I don't know why you've never downshifted to 1st in 20 years of driving. It's rare to be sure, but I can't believe in 20 years you've not found a reason to do it.
Guess I did shift to first when i was learning to drive back in the late 80's but the synchros(if any) were certainly not as forgiving as in today's cars. I guess the point I was making as that on a daily driven car I have never felt the need to downshift from 2nd to 1st while still rolling at 25-35 mph. I don't see the point other than driving up the revs for no apparent reason. You can pretty much come to a crawl in the second and shift to neutral as you come to a stop at a light. the 1st gear just feels like too low a gear to move to while still rolling.
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      01-26-2015, 06:27 PM   #73
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Just curious when and why would you downshift to 1 when still rolling In my 20 odd years of driving manuals I never felt the need to shift to 1 when slowing down, not unless I was completely stopped. Always used the 1st gear more as a starting gear vs downshifting to 1 to get acceleration.
Every morning and afternoon when I drive to and from the parking lot by my office. I usually have to at the speed bumps, sometimes at pedestrian crossings. It makes A LOT of noise too!! May be a unique situation, but can be quite common in multi-storey parking lots with speed limits.
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      01-26-2015, 06:31 PM   #74
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The best feature ever in an MT, if you don't like it you are either Ayrton Senna or think you are Ayrton Senna. Nothing wrong with wanting to do it yourself but you will not do it consistently better in daily driving. Rev matching have never been why I like an MT, it's all about the third pedal and what it brings. I love this feature.
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      01-26-2015, 06:33 PM   #75
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Many here on the list like the auto rev match but you sound more like me, OP. It's infuriating that I can't turn it off.

Sport+ does not give very good throttle modulation (important in this car due to the massive torque) - Economy is superb for that - but then I must tolerate the stupid auto rev match.

Auto-match leaves the throttle on for a split second too long, so that it actually fights braking into a corner. Would be nice to have when I'm feeling totally lazy, but otherwise it's really aggravating to me.
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      01-26-2015, 06:50 PM   #76
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Rev match is my favorite feature of this car as it makes daily driving in traffic much more enjoyable.
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      01-26-2015, 06:56 PM   #77
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Many here on the list like the auto rev match but you sound more like me, OP. It's infuriating that I can't turn it off.

Sport+ does not give very good throttle modulation (important in this car due to the massive torque) - Economy is superb for that - but then I must tolerate the stupid auto rev match.

Auto-match leaves the throttle on for a split second too long, so that it actually fights braking into a corner. Would be nice to have when I'm feeling totally lazy, but otherwise it's really aggravating to me.
Is that you Ayrton?

Let me get this right, you are pissed of by loosing .01s at track like driving when you at the same time want to be in economy and save mpg?
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Many here on the list like the auto rev match but you sound more like me, OP. It's infuriating that I can't turn it off.

Sport+ does not give very good throttle modulation (important in this car due to the massive torque) - Economy is superb for that - but then I must tolerate the stupid auto rev match.

Auto-match leaves the throttle on for a split second too long, so that it actually fights braking into a corner. Would be nice to have when I'm feeling totally lazy, but otherwise it's really aggravating to me.
I hear you. I don't know why it is not on/off in any mode based on the driver's preference. As I look to pick up a '16 M3, this one setting is what concerns me the most. Thankfully, most responses have been 'I love it'. But I'd welcome more responses like this.
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      01-26-2015, 07:04 PM   #79
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do you guys think bmw will offer a fix to the rev matching feature? as in letting us go into iDrive or something and switch off rev match independently of the drive mode. and if they do decide to do that for 2016 or what not. do you think that option could be retro fitted to our cars? or cant the people who jail broke the ecu to tune the car have some kind of access to that feature? maybe a aftermarket solution?
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Is that you Ayrton?

Let me get this right, you are pissed of by loosing .01s at track like driving when you at the same time want to be in economy and save mpg?
I think he meant economy gives you the best throttle modulation
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      01-26-2015, 07:23 PM   #81
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I think he meant economy gives you the best throttle modulation
Which would make it even more confusing. You lose the anti-lag feature in economy and thereby get a trickier throttle when you need linearity the most. This car is not like the e9X M3 where normal was preferable since "power" was more or less just a sprint booster. In the F8X you get actually better linearity and an easier throttle to modulate in sport than economy.
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      01-26-2015, 07:29 PM   #82
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Auto Rev Match is awesome! Especially for DD duties.

As for shifting to 1st, I do it quite often. At slower crawl speeds and low RPM situations such as after a speed bump or after a corner, staying in 2nd makes the car work hard to accelerate, however, 1st makes the acceleration much smoother and the car comes out with more power.
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      01-26-2015, 07:36 PM   #83
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Auto Rev Match is awesome! Especially for DD duties.

As for shifting to 1st, I do it quite often. At slower crawl speeds and low RPM situations such as after a speed bump or after a corner, staying in 2nd makes the car work hard to accelerate, however, 1st makes the acceleration much smoother and the car comes out with more power.
Exactly, a prime example is turning into an uphill parking area which has a curb like entrace, very common here. If you stay in 2nd you will hit the curb with the splitters and you don't want to come to a full stop. My DCT did the same thing, as soon as I gave throttle after slowing down to turn up the curb it would get into 1st. 2nd is just too hard on the engine and the risk for lurching is significant.
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Its a cool feature that I can't say I didn't warm up to once I tried it. Although its always more fun to do it yourself when you know how to well. Ill be driving in Sport + 100% of the time till I can delete the feature in the DME.
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in one word - awesome! The downshift from 2>1 is all theater, and sometimes creates some unnecessary attention.

I'm also always reminded of how crappy my downshifts are when I switch to Sport+
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      01-27-2015, 07:22 AM   #86
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I think it's a great feature.
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      01-27-2015, 10:19 PM   #87
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what is going to happen when I ask it to rev match higher than the break-in limit on the green hell during ED?
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      01-27-2015, 11:08 PM   #88
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I have only owned manual cars for the last 13 years, this is my 1st car with rev matching. I'm not sure how well other systems work but the rev matching is instantaneous on the F8X.

I can honestly say that I love this feature and only wish I could turn it on or off in iDrive instead of only in sport+
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