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GTS requires camber plates and a brake solution, which can be as simple as CCB to iron swap. You could stop there.
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was it just the rear that gave you problems? |
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02-25-2021, 11:07 AM | #28 | |
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Other than that the car is done in my eyes. |
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02-25-2021, 11:10 AM | #30 |
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Also, for the damper settings we ended up with:
Front: 14C/13R Rear: 16C/11R The whole weekend we focused on getting the entry oversteer out of the car so didn't even touch the front damper settings. When the pace started getting there after the rear end was mostly sorted we started getting some mid corner understeer. Next outing we're going to focus on dialing the front end to really get the car working. |
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02-25-2021, 11:24 AM | #31 |
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You mentioned the TTX being a better balance of street & track.
Have a sense of how much track progress has been made with the suspension and related mods? How much further you're ahead vs. working with the factory KW?
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Although the GTS I was close to moved to MCS 3WR suspension -and I would do the same-, I know another GTS guy -who also has a ZL1 1000whp track monster- who chose instead to develop the stock KW CS 3W and also achieved excellent results and is super happy
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Street comfort is all relative as well but, although the car is more firm than it was with the KW's, it isn't harsh in any way. It takes freeway expansion joints and staccato bunks really really well. And that's with all the rubber out of the suspension, which I never ran with the factory suspension. As for actual track improvement I ran a 2:02 on the factory everything at chuckwalla CW, after the repave (apart from putting a better seat in). My last track outing my theoretical was a 1:57.3 because I got stuck in some traffic but I put down three sub 1:59 laps with my actual PB at a 1:58.2. And I know with some more seat time and a bit more fine tuning I can break under a 1:56. And that's all with me in the car. If you put a real driver in there it would just hurt my feelings cause I'll never be that fast. |
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02-26-2021, 09:21 AM | #35 | |
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I tried both with no real success. But the thing is I'm not really super capable of making those adjustments anyways without some guidance from a pro. Especially on track. Like I said, I put the TTX on and went slower. The car was borderline undrivable. It took a lot of fiddling to get it working on par with the stock set up and the guidance of a real race shop to get it working as I expected. You can definitely make the stock suspension more street friendly because handling isn't as important. Just dump a bunch of rebound and compression and call it a day. But that wasn't the point of my build. I wanted to drive he car comfortably on the street and put down really competitive lap times with zero changes. I run the same wheels/tires and even the same damper settings. That's where the TTX (and I imagine something like an MCS 2/3way) really shines. Once it's set that's it. No more fiddling between comfort and speed. |
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I can easily feel the difference between a 2WNR and a 3W system, but to actually configure either is a skill I absolutely don't have. Due to this, I put myself in hands of people who know these things. In the case of Lienrocks, his trusted shop has TTX, in mine it's MCS but I bet we are getting to similar places I don't think the KW 'cannot' get adjusted well. Like I mentioned earlier, another friend has a very serious track GTS and he did all the work with the stock KWs. Different springs, etc, but stock valving. |
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I love my GTS. I'm going to be at chuckwalla on the 20-21st. Also, thank you for the kind words! |
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One Kick Ass build. Bravo 👏 👏👏
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You have to deliver if you talk a big game. Haha.
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