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I think that's why people are asking to see performance data from Noelle ...to have something less subjective than seat time to compare against. |
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The head of engineering at Noelle is Ronald Trochelmann. The guy and his brother were busted for selling fake moon rocks...
https://www.nytimes.com/1998/11/13/n...moon-rock.html I think this tune is another moon rock. |
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I’m assuming w Noelle tune that it’s 2500$ for the tune plus the CBC ? |
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"This warranty does not include reimbursement for repairs to any original vehicle manufacturer's component(s) that may have been affected by a Noelle component"
"In the event of a warranty claim, Noelle will repair or replace, at its sole discretion, any defective NOELLE COMPONENT upon receipt of the item and proof of the original purchase in the form of a lawful invoice." "Noelle limited warranty specifically excludes any vehicle operated in any competitive event" https://www.noelleperformance.com/wp...ent-122019.pdf So in other words you're paying for a warranty that won't cover any actual broken BMW components, only covers Noelle Components (so nothing?), can't dyno the car to show how much power it makes, and can't even go to a drag strip or half mile event to get data to show how fast it is? That warranty's about as useful as this country's politicians |
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You paid top dollar for a tune and if you feel good about it then that's great. The way you are defending them makes it feel like you are promoting them. The reality is that this tune is nothing special and it's just preference on which route you want to go.
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I don't think OP is defending them. OP did his own due diligence and buttdyno and found this tune better than others. It works for him. In all his responses he has been honest about the questions he asked and responses he got with the disclaimer that he's not an expert.
Good for you OP! Enjoy that beast! |
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Sorry but it sounds like the OP got scammed.
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Question: What was the intent of creating this post in the first place? You had to know you were going to get this kind of blowback since I think you said you've read the previous forum threads. |
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If you want to be assured you get a quality product you consult and expert. I'm not an expert which is why I say call the experts of you have questions. |
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Looks like Ron lies about moon rocks, don't think I'd be surprised if he lies to his customers. Did you get that in writing? Asking a question and getting a verbal response won't help if the situation does arise.
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Since no dynos are allowed OP, maybe one day in Mexico you can do some side by side 3rd or 4th gear pulls with another Stage 1 tuned car...BM3, MHD, Alex@Alpine or the others.
Would be interesting to see.
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I wouldn't worry about the letter... Germans over engineer and over document wherever possible. It just protects the manufacturer being liable for some idiot doing a full dyno session with crappy blowers and something trip hot at the absolute worst moment.
When I dyno'd at Kies he used a stack of huge airmovers that blew like a hurricane. I would still pod-dyno (dynapack) the Noelle tune and see what I got for my $3K.
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