iDrive 6 (mostly) working on MY2016

[jzjz15]

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

You should get your eyes checked...

Attachment 1649101

Promise you it's not there, is it because my psdzdata too old? I am using the v3.61.5, I am IT background professional, I Know what I am doing.

All I have under HU_NBT_EVO folder is HMI_version and the drop list have option of id5 and id4-plus-plus.

The e-sys I am using is premium version of 3.27.1


Thanks

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by jzjz15

Promise you it's not there, is it because my psdzdata too old? I am using the v3.61.5, I am IT background professional, I Know what I am doing.

All I have under HU_NBT_EVO folder is HMI_version and the drop list have option of id5 and id4-plus-plus.

The e-sys I am using is premium version of 3.27.1


Thanks

Look at my picture. It is CAFD_00001EF6_006_018_014 and E-Sys 3.27.1, and the FDL Code is there. You cannot claim it is not.

I suggest updating your E-Sys Launcher, as maybe your version has outdated CAFD Mapping Database, and possibly this FDL Code is not being mapped for you.

[Westerwälder]

Originally Posted by Westerwälder

I'm on v61.2 since yesterday and i think the mentioned parameters are correct. Maybe one of you guys can tell me exactly what should be set?Maybe based on the four examples?

Thanks!

Someone can answer my questions? Or has someone successfully coded it to a F30 or maybe F80?

I only changed the HMI_VERSION to id6_light and it now shows a G30 5series. My I-step is 61.2...

[Almaretto]

Originally Posted by Westerwälder

Someone can answer my questions? Or has someone successfully coded it to a F30 or maybe F80?

I only changed the HMI_VERSION to id6_light and it now shows a G30 5series. My I-step is 61.2...

There is nothing to code. If software on vehicle has more appropriate image, you would see it.

[danielh83]

Originally Posted by Almaretto

There is nothing to code. If software on vehicle has more appropriate image, you would see it.

I can confirm this behaviour. I used E-Sys 3.27.1, pszdata 61.5 and Premium Launcher 2.4.3 but couldn't see FDL parameter HMI_ID_VERSION.

With Premium Launcher 2.7.1 I saw the correct value, due to correct mapping :-)

Cheers Daniel

[Almaretto]

Originally Posted by danielh83

I can confirm this behaviour. I used E-Sys 3.27.1, pszdata 61.5 and Premium Launcher 2.4.3 but couldn't see FDL parameter HMI_ID_VERSION.

With Premium Launcher 2.7.1 I saw the correct value, due to correct mapping :-)

Cheers Daniel

Version of PSdZ on computer only needs to be greater than or equal to vehicle I-Slep. Vehicle firmware though is what matters, not computer if your want correct chassis displayed.

P.S. you should update launcher for newest mapping.

[Westerwälder]

Originally Posted by Almaretto

There is nothing to code. If software on vehicle has more appropriate image, you would see it.

I thought that at least the v61.2 would contain a 3series LCI or something comparable.
Has anybody yet achieved getting the right image for his 3series/M3 or 4series/M4?

[Almaretto]

Originally Posted by Westerwälder

I thought that at least the v61.2 would contain a 3series LCI or something comparable.
Has anybody yet achieved getting the right image for his 3series/M3 or 4series/M4?

Yes. I have seen 3 series image on 61.4.

[milk242]

I retrofitted idrive 5 and have the latest software for the head unit and it shows a 3 series. I asked the guy who did it and he says they don't have an f80 specific picture.

[BMW_M4_333]

Hi everyone!
I get some issue when trying to coding ID6_light. I coded a lot of option before and absolutely sure that done everything in right way. BTW after coding
"HU_NBT2: HMI_ID_VERSION id6_light" I get:
1) Loses my NAV (when i push nav menu button NBT ask me to put USB inside with activation code
2) Some error in RHEINGOLD (E07C0A;E07C13;E12C20 !!lose my KAFAS?!!!;E71404;E1405)
3) NO new interface at all

BMW M4 2016 (NBT_EVO)

Any suggestions?

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by BMW_M4_333

Hi everyone!
I get some issue when trying to coding ID6_light. I coded a lot of option before and absolutely sure that done everything in right way. BTW after coding
"HU_NBT2: HMI_ID_VERSION id6_light" I get:
1) Loses my NAV (when i push nav menu button NBT ask me to put USB inside with activation code
2) Some error in RHEINGOLD (E07C0A;E07C13;E12C20 !!lose my KAFAS?!!!;E71404;E1405)
3) NO new interface at all

BMW M4 2016 (NBT_EVO)

Any suggestions?

And your current NBT2 is ID5 and not ID4?

[BMW_M4_333]

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

And your current NBT2 is ID5 and not ID4?

"HU_NBT2: HMI_ID_VERSION id6_light" here was id5_plus_plus as normal value or you mean something else?

Can I do something to get back? (For nav as I understand a have to use FSC, but for KAFAS no idea).

Thank you!

UPD: KAFAS show speed limit sign but just 500m, I think that because after 500m it receive the information from NAV. If NAV doesn't activated it just read road sign.
UPD2: After some walk around all error in RHEINGOLD go away but NAV still not work and ask insert USB.

UPD3: As I understood BMW has some Repair FSC code maybe somebody may help with that for my NBT? My Last 7 letter VIN is K455973

Here is HU_NBT2 (0x63) FSC reading log:
HU_NBT2[DiagAddress=99(0x63)]

Here was my correct VIN
RootCertStatus not available
SWSigStatus accepted
SWTApplications
----------
AppID 158(0x9E)
UpgradeIndex 1(0x01)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus accepted
FSCCertStatus not available
----------
AppID 160(0xA0)
UpgradeIndex 1(0x01)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus accepted
FSCCertStatus not available
----------
AppID 240(0xF0)
UpgradeIndex 1(0x01)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus accepted
FSCCertStatus not available
----------
AppID 111(0x6F)
UpgradeIndex 1(0x01)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus not available
FSCCertStatus not available
----------
AppID 159(0x9F)
UpgradeIndex 1(0x01)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus accepted
FSCCertStatus not available
----------
AppID 156(0x9C)
UpgradeIndex 1(0x01)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus not available
FSCCertStatus not available
----------
AppID 229(0xE5)
UpgradeIndex 1(0x01)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus not available
FSCCertStatus not available
----------
AppID 288(0x120)
UpgradeIndex 43(0x2B)
SWTType SWTshort
FSCStatus rejected
FSCCertStatus not available

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by BMW_M4_333

"HU_NBT2: HMI_ID_VERSION id6_light" here was id5_plus_plus as normal value or you mean something else?

Can I do something to get back? (For nav as I understand a have to use FSC, but for KAFAS no idea).

Thank you!

UPD: KAFAS show speed limit sign but just 500m, I think that because after 500m it receive the information from NAV. If NAV doesn't activated it just read road sign.
UPD2: After some walk around all error in RHEINGOLD go away but NAV still not work and ask insert USB.

UPD3: As I understood BMW has some Repair FSC code maybe somebody may help with that for my NBT? My Last 7 letter VIN is K455973
...

You have NBT2 ID4. You cannot just code it to be ID5/ID6. This is why your 120 Map FSC Code is now Rejected. Revert back to factory coding to fix it.

[BMW_M4_333]

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

You have NBT2 ID4. You cannot just code it to be ID5/ID6. This is why your 120 Map FSC Code is now Rejected. Revert back to factory coding to fix it.

Big thanks, all work as usual from now Why I didn't do this by myself (back to default), don't know.

Thank you one more time.

BTW Is it posable to get new interface on NBT id4?

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by BMW_M4_333

Big thanks, all work as usual from now Why I didn't do this by myself (back to default), don't know.

Thank you one more time.

BTW Is it posable to get new interface on NBT id4?

No. ID4 is stuck with old Interface.

[BMW_M4_333]

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

No. ID4 is stuck with old Interface.

And no way to get Mirrorlink and carplay?

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by BMW_M4_333

And no way to get Mirrorlink and carplay?

No, not possible with ID4.

[milk242]

I dunno if this is true but when I emailed bimmertech, they said they could flash your head unit as long as it was an nbt evo unit with 2gb and give you id5 but they couldn't promise stability.

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by milk242

I dunno if this is true but when I emailed bimmertech, they said they could flash your head unit as long as it was an nbt evo unit with 2gb and give you id5 but they couldn't promise stability.

ID4 Hardware has 2 Gb of Ram. ID5 has 4 Gb. If you flash ID4 Hardware with ID5 Firmware, it will run slow, and suffer frequent reboots as it does not have enough memory. You will also need new ID5 Map FSC Code, which is expensive. Also, unless car has a functional ATM module, you will loose all Telemtics (e.g. RTTI).

[BMW_M4_333]

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

ID4 Hardware has 2 Gb of Ram. ID5 has 4 Gb. If you flash ID4 Hardware with ID5 Firmware, it will run slow, and suffer frequent reboots as it does not have enough memory. You will also need new ID5 Map FSC Code, which is expensive. Also, unless car has a functional ATM module, you will loose all Telemtics (e.g. RTTI).

As a possable solution completly change NBT to the newest with ATM module. In Russia a lot of tuning shop give this opportunity.

But I think it is not good for car. As i understood many difference between two NBT including electrical issue (8.5w against 12w)

Am I right?

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by BMW_M4_333

As a possable solution completly change NBT to the newest with ATM module. In Russia a lot of tuning shop give this opportunity.

But I think it is not good for car. As i understood many difference between two NBT including electrical issue (8.5w against 12w)

Am I right?

You can retrofit anything including ATM, although there are SIM card ESN / IMEI issues to deal with in order to get working Telematics.

Only Voltage difference is the APIX2 CID Connection, and there are cheap and readily available Voltage Regulators for this.

Personally though, I would not want new car car with NBT2 ID4 flashed to ID5 and a Donor ATM module. Besides having RAM issues, you can forget about getting dealer service where programming is needed without flashing back to ID4 and putting original ATM back.

[allinon72]

Are there any options for iD4? Even just cosmetic?