Official F80 M3 / F82 M4 Quotes, Pricing and Lease Rates Thread

Mrbangis · 11-20-2018, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Spritztour

2018 F80
MSRP $84,285
Discount $8000
Finance 1% 60 months

Finance 1%?

Mrbangis · 11-20-2018, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by EyceMan

How did you get 0.9% at 60? did your M4 have over 1000 miles on it?

I would like to know also?

Kief · 11-20-2018, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by andybui82

Anyone know what the buy rate on the m3 is?

Lease Money factor.

.00182

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Originally Posted by rkinra

Just confirmed that Base MF for November is the same as October = .00182

Spritztour · 11-20-2018, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrbangis

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Originally Posted by Spritztour

2018 F80
MSRP $84,285
Discount $8000
Finance 1% 60 months

Finance 1%?

I had own finance ready to go at 2.4% but finance guy offered 1%.

RPM1123 · 11-20-2018, 11:14 PM

I've never used a loyalty credit before, since my current lease is my first BMW.

So I negotiate a selling price on an M4. Does the loyalty credit then get applied on top of the selling price I negotiated?

I just remember my dealer gave me such a huge discount off MSRP on my 340i they wouldn't apply any of the incentives they were offering because they were already 'included in the discount' they were giving me. Not sure if BMW NA is paying for the loyalty credit or the dealers themselves.

blloydtbird · 11-21-2018, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RPM1123

I've never used a loyalty credit before, since my current lease is my first BMW.

So I negotiate a selling price on an M4. Does the loyalty credit then get applied on top of the selling price I negotiated?

I just remember my dealer gave me such a huge discount off MSRP on my 340i they wouldn't apply any of the incentives they were offering because they were already 'included in the discount' they were giving me. Not sure if BMW NA is paying for the loyalty credit or the dealers themselves.

Any dealer can give you the loyalty incentive as is the same with other BMW NA incentives. Thus, incentives should not be a part of your negotiation. The negotiation is all about what the specific dealer can do for you, you can get he incentive anywhere.

firedown31 · 11-21-2018, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RPM1123

I've never used a loyalty credit before, since my current lease is my first BMW.

So I negotiate a selling price on an M4. Does the loyalty credit then get applied on top of the selling price I negotiated?

I just remember my dealer gave me such a huge discount off MSRP on my 340i they wouldn't apply any of the incentives they were offering because they were already 'included in the discount' they were giving me. Not sure if BMW NA is paying for the loyalty credit or the dealers themselves.

It depends, some dealers work with discount + incentives and others are listing the incentives in the discount. When you go and negotiate you should be clear up front and talk price before all available incentives with your dealer. This way there isn't any confusion.

I would almost guarantee your dealer for the 340 actually did give you all the incentives BMW was offering at the time, they just acted like they didn't and made it seem like you got a huge discount. There isn't anything illegal with saying we are giving you 10k off this brand new car, but not mentioning the manufacture is kicking in $8k in incentives, it's a shady move though.

Most incentives don't come out of the dealers pocket, BMW is reimbursing them.

Mrbangis · 11-21-2018, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Spritztour

I had own finance ready to go at 2.4% but finance guy offered 1%.

Where is this magical 1% finance being offered at?

IB M · 11-23-2018, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kief

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Originally Posted by andybui82

Anyone know what the buy rate on the m3 is?

Lease Money factor.

.00182

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Originally Posted by rkinra

Just confirmed that Base MF for November is the same as October = .00182

So 4.368% - not really bending over backwards to help out - gotta buy a Chevy pick-up if you want 0% 72 months -

desertfox73 · 11-23-2018, 06:01 PM

Locked a deal in today, seemed good:

2018 M4 convertible
MSRP: $85,135

Dealer discount: $9000
Lease incentive for 2018 M4: $3000
Loyalty: $1500
Black Friday: $500

Selling price ended up being $71,135.

I put down $2k for no real reason whatsoever, just wanted a payment decently below $1k. The $2k includes first months payment.

Payment will be $932 per month for 36/10k.

I called all over the country and there were a LOT of deals to be had on 2018s, and even 2019s. Dealer discounts were anywhere between $7k for 2019s to $10k for 2018s.

Also: even though I sold my M3 several months ago, I still qualified for Loyalty because i had owned the car within the last 12 months. Many dealers assumed I wouldn't qualify because I didn't currently own a BMW, but that's not the case.

Happy shopping everyone!

mrmoua2u · 11-23-2018, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by desertfox73

Locked a deal in today, seemed good:

2018 M4 convertible
MSRP: $85,135

Dealer discount: $9000
Lease incentive for 2018 M4: $3000
Loyalty: $1500
Black Friday: $500

Selling price ended up being $71,135.

I put down $2k for no real reason whatsoever, just wanted a payment decently below $1k. The $2k includes first months payment.

Payment will be $932 per month for 36/10k.

I called all over the country and there were a LOT of deals to be had on 2018s, and even 2019s. Dealer discounts were anywhere between $7k for 2019s to $10k for 2018s.

Also: even though I sold my M3 several months ago, I still qualified for Loyalty because i had owned the car within the last 12 months. Many dealers assumed I wouldn't qualify because I didn't currently own a BMW, but that's not the case.

Happy shopping everyone!

Holy cow, what a nice discount!! Congrads!!

desertfox73 · 11-23-2018, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmoua2u

Quote:

Originally Posted by desertfox73

Locked a deal in today, seemed good:

2018 M4 convertible
MSRP: $85,135

Dealer discount: $9000
Lease incentive for 2018 M4: $3000
Loyalty: $1500
Black Friday: $500

Selling price ended up being $71,135.

I put down $2k for no real reason whatsoever, just wanted a payment decently below $1k. The $2k includes first months payment.

Payment will be $932 per month for 36/10k.

I called all over the country and there were a LOT of deals to be had on 2018s, and even 2019s. Dealer discounts were anywhere between $7k for 2019s to $10k for 2018s.

Also: even though I sold my M3 several months ago, I still qualified for Loyalty because i had owned the car within the last 12 months. Many dealers assumed I wouldn't qualify because I didn't currently own a BMW, but that's not the case.

Happy shopping everyone!

Holy cow, what a nice discount!! Congrads!!

I'm happy with it. That particular dealer originally said they were holding firm at $8k discount, $2k incentive and no loyalty, but i had a few other strong offers from dealers that they wound up coming around. Great people to deal with overall, as were all of the others i talked to. And all very eager to get a deal done no matter what.

gatorfast · 11-24-2018, 08:15 AM

Nice discount but still a high payment. I guess that is the result of the lower residuals and higher interest rates.

Vanc2408 · 11-28-2018, 08:22 PM

I'm looking at getting an M4 and got them down to 77k from an MSRP of 81,185. I'm planning to drive the car for 3 years and get a new one so was planning to lease. Unfortunately, the leasing incentives right now are complete crap compared to financing and they quoted me at a monthly payment of ~1.3k which I rejected.

They then offered me a rate of 1K per month through the BMW select program with a balloon of about 27k at the end. I've searched all over to see if there's a consensus for whether or not this is a good idea for someone planning to trade their car in after 3 years and haven't found an answer. Compared to financing I think it's clear that I would end up paying more interest on it so probably not a great idea, but compared to a lease??? I still am not sure.

My understanding is that after 3 years I can sell the car and essentially would not owe any extra money because the dealer will be buying up the remainder of what I owe on the car and I can put it into the new car. This almost seems like too good of a deal to be true and I feel that I must be totally missing something here.

I know I sound stupid here but does anyone have any thoughts on this?

mrmoua2u · 11-28-2018, 10:17 PM

^^ I honestly dont even think that is a good price, dropping down from $81 to $77k? I feel you can do way much better than that. With inventory hanging around, cars that needs to be move for the end of the year, etc... you must do more shopping and negotiation.

$10-12k off MSRP is what I would be aiming for.

Balloon payment, I strongly suggest not doing that. I feel if you need to do BP to get into a M, maybe you cant really afford it at the first place.

Stick to financing or lease.

Vanc2408 · 11-28-2018, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmoua2u

^^ I honestly dont even think that is a good price, dropping down from $81 to $77k? I feel you can do way much better than that. With inventory hanging around, cars that needs to be move for the end of the year, etc... you must do more shopping and negotiation.

$10-12k off MSRP is what I would be aiming for.

Balloon payment, I strongly suggest not doing that. I feel if you need to do BP to get into a M, maybe you cant really afford it at the first place.

Stick to financing or lease.

Thanks for the response. That's what I was wondering regarding the price that I negotiated for, seemed a bit higher than I should have expected even with it being a 2019. I'll keep looking around and will be aiming for a lease.

krawesome · 11-30-2018, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpine300zhp

Of course you are correct. If no one buys/leases the cars then BMW is forced to be more realistic about incentives. BMW was smoking some good stuff thinking an already overpriced CS would sell as a buy only car, then as a low residual car. I think it will still be a hard sell at today's residual because of its M5 MSRP.

absolutely agree, i was stoked about the M4 CS when it was revealed and i even had a deposit on it, but the pricing is just ridiculous.

omaralt · 11-30-2018, 08:04 PM

Are the December numbers being released tomorrow or Monday?

///M4ster Yoda · 11-30-2018, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by omaralt

Are the December numbers being released tomorrow or Monday?

I think it's usually a couple of days into the month

2SNAILS · 11-30-2018, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by omaralt

Are the December numbers being released tomorrow or Monday?

Usually no later than the 5th of every month

DS_BMW · 12-02-2018, 06:38 AM

Over 930 new M3s still sitting on lots and soon to be 2019. You would think they would want to move them.

Kief · 12-03-2018, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DS_BMW

Over 930 new M3s still sitting on lots and soon to be 2019. You would think they would want to move them.

We will see...
This week marks the 1yr anniversary since picking up my '18 Tanzanite M3 ZCP, and I'm getting the itch...I haven't kept a car this long in a while!!
However, I doubt there will be drastic reduction in MF and/or significant increase with incentives.

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RPM1123 Second Lieutenant 280 Rep 271 Posts Drives: 2020 M340xi Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	I've never used a loyalty credit before, since my current lease is my first BMW. So I negotiate a selling price on an M4. Does the loyalty credit then get applied on top of the selling price I negotiated? I just remember my dealer gave me such a huge discount off MSRP on my 340i they wouldn't apply any of the incentives they were offering because they were already 'included in the discount' they were giving me. Not sure if BMW NA is paying for the loyalty credit or the dealers themselves.
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11-23-2018, 06:01 PM	#120
desertfox73 Banned 676 Rep 1,020 Posts Drives: 2018 F83 / 2018 F85 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Nashville, Tennessee iTrader: (0)	Locked a deal in today, seemed good: 2018 M4 convertible MSRP: $85,135 Dealer discount: $9000 Lease incentive for 2018 M4: $3000 Loyalty: $1500 Black Friday: $500 Selling price ended up being $71,135. I put down $2k for no real reason whatsoever, just wanted a payment decently below $1k. The $2k includes first months payment. Payment will be $932 per month for 36/10k. I called all over the country and there were a LOT of deals to be had on 2018s, and even 2019s. Dealer discounts were anywhere between $7k for 2019s to $10k for 2018s. Also: even though I sold my M3 several months ago, I still qualified for Loyalty because i had owned the car within the last 12 months. Many dealers assumed I wouldn't qualify because I didn't currently own a BMW, but that's not the case. Happy shopping everyone!
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11-24-2018, 08:15 AM	#123
gatorfast Major General 4996 Rep 6,863 Posts Drives: 718 Cayman Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SoFla iTrader: (4)	Nice discount but still a high payment. I guess that is the result of the lower residuals and higher interest rates.
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Vanc2408 Private First Class 117 Rep 102 Posts Drives: 2019 F82 - MW/SO Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: DC iTrader: (0)	I'm looking at getting an M4 and got them down to 77k from an MSRP of 81,185. I'm planning to drive the car for 3 years and get a new one so was planning to lease. Unfortunately, the leasing incentives right now are complete crap compared to financing and they quoted me at a monthly payment of ~1.3k which I rejected. They then offered me a rate of 1K per month through the BMW select program with a balloon of about 27k at the end. I've searched all over to see if there's a consensus for whether or not this is a good idea for someone planning to trade their car in after 3 years and haven't found an answer. Compared to financing I think it's clear that I would end up paying more interest on it so probably not a great idea, but compared to a lease??? I still am not sure. My understanding is that after 3 years I can sell the car and essentially would not owe any extra money because the dealer will be buying up the remainder of what I owe on the car and I can put it into the new car. This almost seems like too good of a deal to be true and I feel that I must be totally missing something here. I know I sound stupid here but does anyone have any thoughts on this?
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11-28-2018, 10:17 PM	#125
mrmoua2u Captain 655 Rep 877 Posts Drives: 2018 MW F80 ZCP Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	^^ I honestly dont even think that is a good price, dropping down from $81 to $77k? I feel you can do way much better than that. With inventory hanging around, cars that needs to be move for the end of the year, etc... you must do more shopping and negotiation. $10-12k off MSRP is what I would be aiming for. Balloon payment, I strongly suggest not doing that. I feel if you need to do BP to get into a M, maybe you cant really afford it at the first place. Stick to financing or lease.
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11-30-2018, 08:04 PM	#128
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12-02-2018, 06:38 AM	#131
DS_BMW Lieutenant Colonel 1603 Rep 1,765 Posts Drives: 2022 M4 comp, 22 M240 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lancaster PA iTrader: (1)	Over 930 new M3s still sitting on lots and soon to be 2019. You would think they would want to move them.
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