Lack of M3 CS rear HVAC with kids/family?

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Blksnowflake

Lmao at this thread. You people are weak sauce. Rear ac didn't exist in any car I grew up with and it wasn't until recent years that I purchased cars with rear ac. All those years my family along with millions of humans that drove in cars without rear ac and no one turned out with brain damage nor have I ever heard one single story about an individual tell his story about how he suffered in the back seat of his parents cars without ac blasting in his face.

In fact, if anything infants and children require warmth not cold. Regardless, BMW ac is pretty phenomenal and I'm confident that a child driving in the back seat will not die form heat exposure. I'm still not even sure this is serious, with all the legislation in the automotive industry, do people really believe they overlooked this detail.....fuel economy, pedestrian bumpers, full airbag requirements, 360 light id...but no, let kids die in the back seat from heat while the front are saved, cool....

Crazy times...

Yeah but look how fucked up we turned out.

[Blksnowflake]

Originally Posted by jmg

Yeah but look how fucked up we turned out.

Speak for yourself. I turned out fine, great career and nice family. But if lack of rear ac causes parents to divorce, I'll give you that. Interesting to see this still happens today with all the rear ac though.

[rarlyl8]

It's fine but to each their own but I also have a wrangler that I drive top down in the summer in the ATL. BUT if concerned...keep looking for something else as they should be the top priority.

[guess2098]

Originally Posted by Blksnowflake

Bro..it could be 20 degrees hotter today(which I don't agree with this as an argument btw) and it still doesn't compare to growing up in the 70s-80s where cars barely had front working ac.
My parents and every other fully functioning child of that era mostly drove around with the windows down, no ac on, no seat belt, and pretty much like a dog just being a kid head poking out the window or riding in the bed of a pick-up.
Older gen cars are probably much hotter than today as they used real insulation and the cars were metal. Nonetheless, looking at historical data on whether underground for Texas temperatures 1980 vs 2018 and the difference is minimal. So if you have data showing where across the whole United States there has been a proven 10 degree increase in temperatures then please post it.

I said our seat is about 10 degree less than child car seat. Not weather. Average temp is getting higher every year that's why ice cube in north and south gets smallest

[Alan l.]

You guys are a bunch of pussies. Kids didn’t use to need car seats back in the day so we should stop using those too... hey we turned out fine right?

[BigSky702]

Originally Posted by sdshah

Lmao bro. You are about to put a rear facing car seat with a 1.5 year old in a car with no rear AC in Texas? I think you have your answer there.

There will be time later on in life to get a car like this. Probably not the best time now.

San Antonio, nonetheless.. hot as hell in the summer!!

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

You guys are a bunch of pussies. Kids didn’t use to need car seats back in the day so we should stop using those too... hey we turned out fine right?

[mfurse]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

You guys are a bunch of pussies. Kids didn't use to need car seats back in the day so we should stop using those too... hey we turned out fine right?

https://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/t/c...s/child-safety

Just like most things we seem to project our own singular experiences as the truth. Not sure what the stats are on the reduction in overall Child deaths in hot cars over the past 50 years as air con was introduced but for car seats it's pretty cut and dry.

As for whether to get a CS or not with little kids, personally I wouldn't - I'd get a comp pack and pocket the difference whilst I have small kids for their comfort.

[Alan l.]

Lol that kid looks happy

Some of these guys here the commenting like if the OP asked if kids will die without rear vents (he didn’t).

Will kids be ok in a car without rear vents? Sure
Is it hot as hell in Texas during the summer? Hell yeah!
Will they be more uncomfortable in Texas heat? Likely
Will they die from this discomfort? No
Will they (babies) likely act out or cry from discomfort? Yep
Will this crying make you want to pull your hair out a little? Maybe...

Alan

[mfurse]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Lol that kid looks happy

Some of these guys here the commenting like if the OP asked if kids will die without rear vents (he didn't).

Will kids be ok in a car without rear vents? Sure
Is it hot as hell in Texas during the summer? Hell yeah!
Will they be more uncomfortable in Texas heat? Likely
Will they die from this discomfort? No
Will they (babies) likely act out or cry from discomfort? Yep
Will this crying make you want to pull your hair out a little? Maybe...

Alan

Amen.

[Faceplant]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Lol that kid looks happy

Some of these guys here the commenting like if the OP asked if kids will die without rear vents (he didn’t).

Will kids be ok in a car without rear vents? Sure
Is it hot as hell in Texas during the summer? Hell yeah!
Will they be more uncomfortable in Texas heat? Likely
Will they die from this discomfort? No
Will they (babies) likely act out or cry from discomfort? Yep
Will this crying make you want to pull your hair out a little? Maybe...

Alan

God forbid a kid be uncomfortable in any way now and days. At least when they do feel uncomfortable about anything in life we have “safe spaces” and “cry closets”

[f80er]

Originally Posted by Faceplant

God forbid a kid be uncomfortable in any way now and days. At least when they do feel uncomfortable about anything in life we have “safe spaces” and “cry closets”

Got to coddle them man. How else will they grow up knowing they are special and they
matter?

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

spoiler alert. the parents are the kids. because they pacify their children instead of actually parenting lol.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

spoiler alert. the parents are the kids. because they pacify their children instead of actually parenting lol.

Do you have a kid(s)?

[Alan l.]

^^ forget it. Can't expect these kids to understand what they have no idea about. Lets keep the convo here about burble tunes, pops and bangs or how can i have 700 horsepower that i don't need. They will be happier...

[cotmfk]

Originally Posted by kolosy

um. fairly certain children survived in the back seats of cars before AC, and even today a lot of economy cars don't have AC back there.

Came here for this.

[allinon72]

A lot of you old men need to stop grandstanding. You're on a forum dedicated to modern LUXURY vehicles the likes of which a lot of people aren't privy to. It's not about survival, it's about convenience.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

Originally Posted by minn19

Do you have a kid(s)?

no, I don't. still doesn't change me vividly remembering asking my parents to turn the a/c on and they wouldn't. regardless if i was sitting in the front back or on the roof....so are my parents bad people; cause they were cheap af and didn't turn the a/c on? My parents also bought me a g35 as my first car so go figure. everyone has different parenting strategies. but I've been in homes where kids curse at their parents for things and get them. its behavioral conditioning ....and my ass would be holding my vertebrae if i dared speak like that....its easy to just give ur kids what they want...obvs a infant doesn't have the mental capacity to ask for something specifically as a/c... we are really diving deep down the rabbit hole.

Idk when I become a parent, will rear a/c be a thought when I shop for my car....prolly not

[jmg]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

everyone has different parenting strategies.

Full stop. No need to go further. Personally, rear AC on any of my cars is not a must even even as a parent, but "everyone has different parenting strategies" so I'm not going to accuse anyone of being a bad parent because they want AC in the rear. IMHO pacifying a child does not always mean they are doing it wrong and every child is as different as there are ways of parenting.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

Originally Posted by jmg

Full stop. No need to go further. Personally, rear AC on any of my cars is not a must even even as a parent, but "everyone has different parenting strategies" so I'm not going to accuse anyone of being a bad parent because they want AC in the rear. IMHO pacifying a child does not always mean they are doing it wrong and every child is as different as there are ways of parenting.

yeah dude I figure. no right or wrongs just balance

on that note...the rear a/c for adults in my m3 feels like a cough than a/c. Also the rear heated seats dont fare to well either, but then again im comparing them to the oven roasters in the front

[minn19]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

no, I don't. still doesn't change me vividly remembering asking my parents to turn the a/c on and they wouldn't. regardless if i was sitting in the front back or on the roof....so are my parents bad people; cause they were cheap af and didn't turn the a/c on? My parents also bought me a g35 as my first car so go figure. everyone has different parenting strategies. but I've been in homes where kids curse at their parents for things and get them. its behavioral conditioning ....and my ass would be holding my vertebrae if i dared speak like that....its easy to just give ur kids what they want...obvs a infant doesn't have the mental capacity to ask for something specifically as a/c... we are really diving deep down the rabbit hole.

Idk when I become a parent, will rear a/c be a thought when I shop for my car....prolly not

And that’s just it, you have an idea, but until you actually become one you really don't know how you’ll approach it. Plus whoever your partner is will obviously have a say in it to. I hope......

My parents chain smoked like chimneys in the car while we rolled around in the back unbuckled. Do I do that with my kid, hell no. My parents didn’t help with a car or college etc. Does that mean I’ll do the same, probably not. Do I give into everything, hell no. Would I pick a car for my own selfish reasons and knowingly make an infant extremely uncomfortable, hell no. Not saying the CS is that, but you get the idea.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by allinon72

A lot of you old men need to stop grandstanding. You're on a forum dedicated to modern LUXURY vehicles the likes of which a lot of people aren't privy to. It's not about survival, it's about convenience.

You can bet your ass everyone of them uses the A/C when it is hot out so they are not uncomfortable. I guess it is okay then.