F8X M3/M4 Macht Schnell wheel spacer reference thread

[kevin @ eas]

Originally Posted by Juras

Did it rub with such aggressive setup? Many ppl here stop at 15, you were advising against going more than that, but personally I really like it aggressive and that f80 looks so good. But I don't want to be worrying about rubbing, I hate when it happens, even slighly from time to time is unacceptable.

Also, is there any difference in clearance f80/f82?

This customer put those spacers on himself, normally dont recommend going that aggressive. 15 is normally max we recommend with the comp wheels. F82 and F80 should be right about the same wheel clearance.

Originally Posted by Foozed

Hi Kevin - 2018 f80 zcp - 15/12 please going to 27615

PM sent

Originally Posted by KevoB

Have you ever seen a F82 setup with 17mm?

We dont make a 17mm MS spacer but do make an 18mm. Seen it before on the standard 437m wheels and it is pretty aggressive. Wheels have a little poke with the 18mm.

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by kevin @ eas

You wont see any difference in tire wear with spacers. On a comp package we generally run 12mm front an 10mm rear. I generally stay in that ball park of 10's and 12's. No alignment needed.

This car came in the other day running 20mm front and 18mm rears.

Is that Mexico Blue and YMB?

[Juras]

Originally Posted by kevin @ eas

We dont make a 17mm MS spacer but do make an 18mm. Seen it before on the standard 437m wheels and it is pretty aggressive. Wheels have a little poke with the 18mm.

But would 18 rub in the rear with 437?

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by Juras

But would 18 rub in the rear with 437?

Depends on a number of factors like tire size, suspension and driving style. Would recommend keeping 12mm in rear to prevent any chance of rubbing.

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Is that Mexico Blue and YMB?

Good eye, it is.

[Juras]

Originally Posted by KevoB

Have you ever seen a F82 setup with 17mm?

This f82 looks quite moderate for MS. I'd thought it is going to be a bit lower, this looks more like Eibach type of drop. Were those pictures taken right after the install so that they will settle a bit more?

[Evren]

Whats the best sizes for both front and rear?
15mm is enough?

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by Evren

Whats the best sizes for both front and rear?
15mm is enough?

Depends on a number of factors:

- ZCP or standard M3/M4?
- Stock or aftermarket wheel/tires?
- Stock or lowered suspension?

[Evren]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Depends on a number of factors:

- ZCP or standard M3/M4?
- Stock or aftermarket wheel/tires?
- Stock or lowered suspension?

Sorry for missing question.
Its 15 m4. Not cp.
Wheels are stock.
I have just HR springs.
Thanks for reply.

[kevin @ eas]

Originally Posted by Evren

Sorry for missing question.
Its 15 m4. Not cp.
Wheels are stock.
I have just HR springs.
Thanks for reply.

That case with stock tires and stock wheels I would run a 15mm front and 12mm rear spacers in the rear.

[tommysains]

Hi all

This thread is a mind field with so many opinion s. I could do with a clear concise opinion on the following if someone can help.

About to pick up this little baby on Sunday. I’ve wanted an M4 for ages and I’ve been waiting on my 420d company car lease to end. Completely agree that spacers make the car look better instantly.

Current stock in every way for a comp pack M4. What spacers should I go with on the standard 20” comp wheel and tyre set up?

Thanks to all in advance.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...d&modal=photos

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by tommysains

Hi all

This thread is a mind field with so many opinion s. I could do with a clear concise opinion on the following if someone can help.

About to pick up this little baby on Sunday. I’ve wanted an M4 for ages and I’ve been waiting on my 420d company car lease to end. Completely agree that spacers make the car look better instantly.

Current stock in every way for a comp pack M4. What spacers should I go with on the standard 20” comp wheel and tyre set up?

Thanks to all in advance.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...d&modal=photos

I would recommend 12F, 10R spacers for ZCP with stock tires/suspension.

[tommysains]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

I would recommend 12F, 10R spacers for ZCP with stock tires/suspension.

Thanks so much.

Anyone got any recommendations for brands please?

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by tommysains

Thanks so much.

Anyone got any recommendations for brands please?

Macht Schnell, without a doubt.

[fernandoimura]

Hey,

I have 295/35/19 PSS rear wheels on my stock 437M Wheels with 12mm, with KW HAS not lowest setting because the workshop guy said it will rub. Now if I switch to 10mm can I go to the lowest setting with the KW HAS rear ? thanks

[Inferi]

What do you guys recommend for my setup?

Non-ZCP stock 437M wheels
Swift springs
front tires: stock Conti's 255/35/19
rear tires: PS4S 285/35/19

Will replace front tires with 265/35/19 PS4S in about 5k miles or so.

Rears look tucked for some reason, . I really like the wide aggressive look but don't want any rubbing!

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by fernandoimura

Hey,

I have 295/35/19 PSS rear wheels on my stock 437M Wheels with 12mm, with KW HAS not lowest setting because the workshop guy said it will rub. Now if I switch to 10mm can I go to the lowest setting with the KW HAS rear ? thanks

2mm isn't much difference, it's hard to determine without looking at the car. Either drop to a lower size spacer or adjust camber to clear.

Originally Posted by Inferi

What do you guys recommend for my setup?

Non-ZCP stock 437M wheels
Swift springs
front tires: stock Conti's 255/35/19
rear tires: PS4S 285/35/19

Will replace front tires with 265/35/19 PS4S in about 5k miles or so.

Rears look tucked for some reason, . I really like the wide aggressive look but don't want any rubbing!

You're local to us, come down and we can measure for you and recommend the perfect setup.

[Relak]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Depends on a number of factors:

- ZCP or standard M3/M4?
- Stock or aftermarket wheel/tires?
- Stock or lowered suspension?

I have a standard M3 with 666m wheels on stock suspension, can you recommend the best look/fit? I won't be lowering the car. Thanks!

[FLEW]

19" Style 437M
Wheels: 19x9.0 Front (ET29) 19x10.0 Rear (ET40)
Tires: Stock Contis.

Stock height. As aggressive as I can for street driving occasional 0-60 in 3.9 seconds. No rubbing. Will lowering the car eventually make me have to change spacer sizes? Ship to 94544

[kevin @ eas]

Originally Posted by MKitSS

I have a standard M3 with 666m wheels on stock suspension, can you recommend the best look/fit? I won't be lowering the car. Thanks!

12mm front and 10mm rear would be the perfect flush and no rub fitment

Originally Posted by GMEJIA

19" Style 437M
Wheels: 19x9.0 Front (ET29) 19x10.0 Rear (ET40)
Tires: Stock Contis.

Stock height. As aggressive as I can for street driving occasional 0-60 in 3.9 seconds. No rubbing. Will lowering the car eventually make me have to change spacer sizes? Ship to 94544

PM coming your way

[White340]

Hi,

I have a 2018 M3 ZCP with the 513M winter setup on 255/40/18's right now. I also have the 666M wheels and I am planning on switching the tires from PSS to PS4S in stock size. From what I understand the PS4S are wider.

Would 12mm front and 10mm rear look okay with both setups? I don't want it to stick out and prefer flush at the widest.

Thanks!

[Alpine_F82]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Depends on a number of factors:

- ZCP or standard M3/M4?
- Stock or aftermarket wheel/tires?
- Stock or lowered suspension?

Hi, I was wondering on getting 12mm for both on 437mm stock height m suspension everyoption on car except for competition package 15’ M4

I was wondering if there is any rubbing at all? Even with brand new tires I push the car to its limits I go to the line to where the next millimeter of sterring could lose traction and be drifting and I drift also and I live on very bumpy Tennessee back roads little hills in the road and go airborne sometimes. Obviously I will scrape on that but I’d it tolerable and besides for the sips in the road where I go airborne can the rest be tolerated I don’t want to go in so I hard my whole fender is destroyed or possible goes so far in that it will catch on the fender and cause me to crash.

What would be the size you think that would work? I’m not gonna be going airborne anymore I don’t try to it’s just part of the road

[kevin @ eas]

Originally Posted by White340

Hi,

I have a 2018 M3 ZCP with the 513M winter setup on 255/40/18's right now. I also have the 666M wheels and I am planning on switching the tires from PSS to PS4S in stock size. From what I understand the PS4S are wider.

Would 12mm front and 10mm rear look okay with both setups? I don't want it to stick out and prefer flush at the widest.

Thanks!

There is a good deal of variances with tire sizes from what I have seen. Even comparing the same size star spec Michelins vs the standard. From what I have seen the PS4's are about 4mm wider than the PSS. I would step down and do a 10mm all around.

Originally Posted by M4BimmerChris

Hi, I was wondering on getting 12mm for both on 437mm stock height m suspension everyoption on car except for competition package 15’ M4

I was wondering if there is any rubbing at all? Even with brand new tires I push the car to its limits I go to the line to where the next millimeter of sterring could lose traction and be drifting and I drift also and I live on very bumpy Tennessee back roads little hills in the road and go airborne sometimes. Obviously I will scrape on that but I’d it tolerable and besides for the sips in the road where I go airborne can the rest be tolerated I don’t want to go in so I hard my whole fender is destroyed or possible goes so far in that it will catch on the fender and cause me to crash.

What would be the size you think that would work? I’m not gonna be going airborne anymore I don’t try to it’s just part of the road

12mm isnt a problem, we have had people run the same or bigger setup on track days without issues. I do not foresee any issues