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      11-09-2013, 11:17 AM   #133
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Is it me or am I right?

It is you! I don't think your right. Your comparing apples to oranges.

Maybe one day in the future you will (once again?) prefer driving a performance car and not a SUV.

Hell, I know I've gone back and forth over the years between the two.

Best to have both, a big ass SUV and fun car.
This is exactly right...And I've made compromises in my past cars cause I can't afford both car and x-over..

Going to be very hard for me to decide when this lease is up
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This is exactly right...And I've made compromises in my past cars cause I can't afford both car and x-over..

Going to be very hard for me to decide when this lease is up
Now if BMW brought a F11 M50d over to US this would be a non-issue. But then BMW wouldn't make as much money as selling both a X3 and M3.
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Now if BMW brought a F11 M50d over to US this would be a non-issue. But then BMW wouldn't make as much money as selling both a X3 and M3.
Thats exactly right....
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I fully agree. An X5 is definitely the way to go if you want an M4. Also, true that people in the market for an M4 are really concerned about room rather than weight. And yea, what happened to all the 500hp M3s BMW used to make??

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With the new M3/ M4 coming soon. Will the E92 M3 with the V8 motor gain or lose value? Reason I am asking is, should I keep my M3 coupe or sell it now? I am interested in the M4, but, the sound of the naturally aspirated engine on my car is hard to match with turbos. I'm torn, any comments?
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With the new M3/ M4 coming soon. Will the E92 M3 with the V8 motor gain or lose value? Reason I am asking is, should I keep my M3 coupe or sell it now? I am interested in the M4, but, the sound of the naturally aspirated engine on my car is hard to match with turbos. I'm torn, any comments?
Keep the m3 itS gonna be classic
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Keep the m3 itS gonna be classic
Absolutely! Just don't put any more miles on it. In 30 years, all 50,000 of them will be worth $35-40,000 apiece!
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With the new M3/ M4 coming soon. Will the E92 M3 with the V8 motor gain or lose value? Reason I am asking is, should I keep my M3 coupe or sell it now? I am interested in the M4, but, the sound of the naturally aspirated engine on my car is hard to match with turbos. I'm torn, any comments?
Keep the m3 itS gonna be classic
LMAO! Oh boy! Here we go again. I've heard that same line for at least a decade now.
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With the new M3/ M4 coming soon. Will the E92 M3 with the V8 motor gain or lose value? Reason I am asking is, should I keep my M3 coupe or sell it now? I am interested in the M4, but, the sound of the naturally aspirated engine on my car is hard to match with turbos. I'm torn, any comments?
Sell now or prepare to loose millions.
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Absolutely! Just don't put any more miles on it. In 30 years, all 50,000 of them will be worth $35-40,000 apiece!
And one bread would be about $ 500 a piece as well.

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With the new M3/ M4 coming soon. Will the E92 M3 with the V8 motor gain or lose value? Reason I am asking is, should I keep my M3 coupe or sell it now? I am interested in the M4, but, the sound of the naturally aspirated engine on my car is hard to match with turbos. I'm torn, any comments?
If you like your car now, you are not going to like it less when the M4 is out. Keep your car until you are ready to move on.
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Thank you

Thank you for your reply. I am sure that I will like the E92 regardless of the new car. I was just wondering if the value will take a hit or if there will be people that want the bigger engine.
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500+ hp on an m3 would be way faster than an m5 which would defeat the purpose of owning an m5
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      11-13-2013, 05:17 PM   #146
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500+ hp on an m3 would be way faster than an m5 which would defeat the purpose of owning an m5
It isn't that simple though, right? You can get a 500hp+ C63 and yet there is still the E63. For that matter, the 535i would not exist because everyone would just buy a 335i instead.

The OP's comment was off base for sure (as captured best by the reply in post #3), but it isn't as simple as saying that the existence of the M5/M6 mean that the M3/M4 must be kept at a certain power level. I mean, I agree that this is essentially the case for BMW as things are today, but that is only the result of their chosen marketing strategy and the way in which they've laid out their product lineup. This may very well mean that some competitor of theirs with a different business model has more room to push performance (at least, straight line performance) with their entry in this class of vehicle.
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      11-14-2013, 08:00 AM   #147
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Thank you for your reply. I am sure that I will like the E92 regardless of the new car. I was just wondering if the value will take a hit or if there will be people that want the bigger engine.
It will depreciate and continue depreciating until some point a long long time from now it will come back. case in point an 88 M3 was about $45k new. They are finally reaching the same price now for decent shape low mileage ones taking into account inflation. so it took 25 years finally just to break even on the car and didn't even include insurance and maintenance.

if you like it keep it. if you know you want to buy an M4 then best to sell yours asap. early spring maybe have a better chance instead of heading into winter but depends. also the m4 is probably going to get a competition package and likely a little power boost 1 year later so the early adopters will then want to unload their early m4's and get the new one.

will there be demand for the V8 M3? yes but much less so than the new thing on the block so priced accordingly.
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      11-17-2013, 03:38 AM   #148
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With the new M3/ M4 coming soon. Will the E92 M3 with the V8 motor gain or lose value? Reason I am asking is, should I keep my M3 coupe or sell it now? I am interested in the M4, but, the sound of the naturally aspirated engine on my car is hard to match with turbos. I'm torn, any comments?
Sell now or prepare to loose millions.
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I remember when I could kill the then-current generation 'Vette (C4) and hang with the prior-generation 911 on track in my E36 M3. That's changed now, because everybody's stepped up their performance game. The physics of producing a sedan that will hang with a true sports car have created bigger performance margins over time.

BMW's decision to continue to make practical grocery-getters that are amazingly fun to drive gives them a much broader - and overall a more profitable - market than 'Vette and Porsche. BMW makes cars for the daily-driver, real world, where you actually have to carry stuff and people. And that's why I have an M3 on order right now.
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