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      07-22-2015, 04:16 PM   #67
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Lup's - Based upon your vast knowledge of this vehicle do you know of any local shop's that have worked on them (coding, suspension, misc. tuning) . . .

I have dealt with most of the regional shops with past cars, but no one has touched the M4 yet
I can recommend a few, my car goes strictly to Cnc autodesign in Bellevue, since I've trained them well to understand I ran out of vocabulary faster than coffee. W00tW00t, a former player in our parts used an other shop, and I will look up the name of it to you later. I have seen their work and they did awesome work too.

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I can never understand how salesmen continually make the avoidable mistake of saying things like "you probably can't afford this, or handle this, etc." I guess it's their prerogative to believe that, but too voice it is just plane stupid.
Meh, a mile of blond hair, a shitty attitude and being a member of the wrong sex and all reason goes out of the window. I've been told by a salesman BMW doesn't do manuals, that I should go fetch hubby to look at the specs while I can look at the pretty pics and my favorite of all times is a text gotten from one salesman complementing on my my looks and stating something like "I don't care if you're married, I have a huge crush on you"

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      07-22-2015, 06:51 PM   #69
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Based on below, I think it is all about who you talk to.....

But I agree with Lups, the local dealers are trying to jack up the price thinking that we don't know what we are doing and don't know the details for buying a BMW.

People who don't know what they are doing or new in town (aka bunch of MSFT and Amazon imports) end up getting screwed royally!

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I ordered my 2016 M3 in June, within a week of the 2016 price guide coming out. I sent an email to Seattle, Bellevue, Portland, and Kuni saying I want Invoice + $2k. Seattle said they aren't doing discounts. Portland and Kuni both agreed to my deal. Day before I went to Portland to place my order, I stopped by Bellevue in person (never got an email response) and was told they are only doing MSRP.

I ended up going with Portland because they had an allocation and Kuni did not.

Final deal (buying, not leasing) was Invoice + $2000 + $75 (doc fee) + $749 (non-taxable fee -- I need to figure out what this is) - $1500 (Corporate Fleet Discount) - $500 (BMW CCA) = Invoice + $824.

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I ended up going with Portland as well. Bellevue was close, but the allocation was spotty when I ordered and wouldn't match the Portland offer; Seattle wasn't anywhere close.

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DAMN! You guys really have lots of time to get on this! Kudo's to you.
If it s a matter of saving thousands, I will do my homework.
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      07-23-2015, 04:35 PM   #71
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Based on below, I think it is all about who you talk to.....

But I agree with Lups, the local dealers are trying to jack up the price thinking that we don't know what we are doing and don't know the details for buying a BMW.

People who don't know what they are doing or new in town (aka bunch of MSFT and Amazon imports) end up getting screwed royally!
Agreed. Also think this is a factor of M3 vs. M4 allocations. If you're going to Bellevue, let me know, and I can put you in touch with the CA I spoke with.
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Based on below, I think it is all about who you talk to.....

But I agree with Lups, the local dealers are trying to jack up the price thinking that we don't know what we are doing and don't know the details for buying a BMW.

People who don't know what they are doing or new in town (aka bunch of MSFT and Amazon imports) end up getting screwed royally!







If it s a matter of saving thousands, I will do my homework.
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Been working with Rusnak of Cali. Was on track to get 2500 off msrp. I told him that I wanted to have it shipped up to Washington and he said that they do not finance out side of the state. Has any one worked a deal thru these guys.
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      12-12-2015, 02:11 AM   #74
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Been working with Rusnak of Cali. Was on track to get 2500 off msrp. I told him that I wanted to have it shipped up to Washington and he said that they do not finance out side of the state. Has any one worked a deal thru these guys.
I went with a dealer in Colorado where I got over 4K off but you have to pay for transport.

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For those who live in Washington, and purchased out of state, how did you handle the WA sales/registration taxes stuff?

Did the dealer stick handle that, and you payed it to the dealer? Or did you take care of it yourself?

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P.s. As you might be able to tell, I'm looking to order an M3 in the near future.
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If you finance they make you pay for it at the dealership, if you pay cash, you have a choice...I just paid at dealership but if I had to do it again, I would take care of it on my own as there are million DMV's here on the WA side and then you can just get your plates right away at your leisure rather than waiting for it in the mail.



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For those who live in Washington, and purchased out of state, how did you handle the WA sales/registration taxes stuff?

Did the dealer stick handle that, and you payed it to the dealer? Or did you take care of it yourself?

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P.s. As you might be able to tell, I'm looking to order an M3 in the near future.
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Sorry to bring up an old thread but my lease is up on my 335i.

I found this m3 at BMW Bellevue and was wondering what type of deals and discount that I should expect to receive(loyalty, lease credit, etc.)

MSRP: $79,695

Cars.com says target price is $75k is that realistic?

http://www.bmwbellevue.com/new/BMW/2...f63f5c905d.htm
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Sorry to bring up an old thread but my lease is up on my 335i.

I found this m3 at BMW Bellevue and was wondering what type of deals and discount that I should expect to receive(loyalty, lease credit, etc.)

MSRP: $79,695

Cars.com says target price is $75k is that realistic?

http://www.bmwbellevue.com/new/BMW/2...f63f5c905d.htm
If you need I can give you my contact at BMW Bellevue, his name is Stanley
Not sure about their flexibility on the car that's not on the lot though...
Tell him Albert send you
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If you need I can give you my contact at BMW Bellevue, his name is Stanley
Not sure about their flexibility on the car that's not on the lot though...
Tell him Albert send you
Thanks BMWCAT, I plan to stop by there this weekend will look for Stanley and mention you had recommended him. You mentioned the car is not on the lot, does that mean it is in their warehouse or still yet to arrive at the dealer?
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If you need I can give you my contact at BMW Bellevue, his name is Stanley
Not sure about their flexibility on the car that's not on the lot though...
Tell him Albert send you
Do you think he would be able to get me this deal?
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Do you think he would be able to get me this deal?
go to true car and find out, I believe BMW of Bellevue is one of the provider for that?
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Do you think he would be able to get me this deal?
you can try to get the deal, Im not sure how you came up with the number? But generally dealer earn on two levels on lease, one is the cap cost (agree price) and one is the money factor. I believe for M3/M4 the base from BMWNA is .00135, dealer are free to add on top to make more money off you...
So don't be too happy on they simply telling you "By the way, we give you the best price on the car! 5000 off!" They might be earning a huge chunk of money off from you from money factor (aka interest)
Need to negotiate both the Money Factor, and the sale price
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you can try to get the deal, Im not sure how you came up with the number? But generally dealer earn on two levels on lease, one is the cap cost (agree price) and one is the money factor. I believe for M3/M4 the base from BMWNA is .00135, dealer are free to add on top to make more money off you...
So don't be too happy on they simply telling you "By the way, we give you the best price on the car! 5000 off!" They might be earning a huge chunk of money off from you from money factor (aka interest)
Need to negotiate both the Money Factor, and the sale price
I used cars.com to find invoice($72.5k) price and also had read a couple threads saying BMW Bellevue has give 2k off msrp. Also cars.com said target price is around $75.2k. I understand they make money off money factors and cap cost reduction. I was planning on only putting money down in the form of MSDs, 1st month, doc fees. I know the April money factor is .00135 and each MSD should reduce money factor by .00007 and used the leasematic iPhone app to come up with those numbers.

Will check true car to see what others may have picked up the car for.
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I used cars.com to find invoice($72.5k) price and also had read a couple threads saying BMW Bellevue has give 2k off msrp. Also cars.com said target price is around $75.2k. I understand they make money off money factors and cap cost reduction. I was planning on only putting money down in the form of MSDs, 1st month, doc fees. I know the April money factor is .00135 and each MSD should reduce money factor by .00007 and used the leasematic iPhone app to come up with those numbers.

Will check true car to see what others may have picked up the car for.
Hope you can get a great deal. If you need I can give you my contact that I got mine from. They can order one for you and sell you at invoice with base MF and with tax up front. If you want you can do MSD and lower the payment even more... Catch is they based in NY...
After paying the shipping, its still considerably cheaper though.
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Hope you can get a great deal. If you need I can give you my contact that I got mine from. They can order one for you and sell you at invoice with base MF and with tax up front. If you want you can do MSD and lower the payment even more... Catch is they based in NY...
After paying the shipping, its still considerably cheaper though.
May just have to take you up on that. I am dropping my 335i off today and it looks like they raised the price to 88K!!! Will see what they can do but I should have taken a screen shot of the web page but oh well.

I am now considering just waiting for the 718.

EDIT:

The dealer got the car in yesterday afternoon it has every options except CCB. However it does have the following accessories: MPE, Carbon fiber mirror caps/exhaust tips, black kidney grills, and steel pedals(Total=$8154).

msrp: $87,860

Essentially a completely loaded car, I am going to go check it out after work today.
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Every time I've gone to BMW of Bellevue, I've had a terrible experience. Was there a few months ago and actually talked to Stanley (if you can consider him being on his cell phone texting the entire time talking). It was as if he did not want to sell me a car! Worst CA I've ever come across! Service at BMW of Bellevue is great (Michael Edwards is an awesome service adviser) but I'd never ever buy a car from them. I ended up going to Seattle, talked to Randall Nakamura and got an awesome deal from him on a 2016 M3. He put the work in, listened to what I wanted and went above and beyond to get me the deal I asked for (which he did). Taking delivery on my M3 June 1st and I'll be buying all my cars from him from now on.
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Every time I've gone to BMW of Bellevue, I've had a terrible experience. Was there a few months ago and actually talked to Stanley (if you can consider him being on his cell phone texting the entire time talking). It was as if he did not want to sell me a car! Worst CA I've ever come across! Service at BMW of Bellevue is great (Michael Edwards is an awesome service adviser) but I'd never ever buy a car from them. I ended up going to Seattle, talked to Randall Nakamura and got an awesome deal from him on a 2016 M3. He put the work in, listened to what I wanted and went above and beyond to get me the deal I asked for (which he did). Taking delivery on my M3 June 1st and I'll be buying all my cars from him from now on.
I actually didn't end up talking to Stanley (luckily?). The CS rep who I did my lease return with forwarded me to another CA. He was cognizant of the fact I was sitting in front of him lol but they were not willing to negotiate. The car had been ordered by a customer who backed out. They did agree to drop the sell price by 3% but that was it and the monthly payments were over 1k/mo.

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Hi Guys,

Went to my local dealer today to check out the m3 I had inquired about last week since they just got the car in. Anyways the car was previously listed at $79k but ending up coming with MPE, Carbon Fiber Mirror caps/exhaust tips, steel pedals, black grills adding an extra $8165 making the new sell price just over $87k.

They said the best they could do was $85,000 flat with .00175 MF they didn't mention residual but I think it is 64% if my math is right. They quoted me $1002/mo for 10k/year with $7500 down.

I am only willing to put money down in the form of MSD which I do not think they accounted for. Also I did notice the MF is higher than I want as well.

What do you guys think?
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