Millway street version camber plates fitted

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by aswy6

Are there any significant draw backs in performance between plates that use monoball bushing vs not?

I've not used monoball ones before,but I was concerned about noise and just didn't want that. So I'm not really in a position to answer the question for you. I expect a monoball one would give even more feel or feedback perhaps.

[FreeDarko]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

I don't see why there would be any issues in winter. In winter for road use your can run them more upright and have a better contact patch for braking. High negative camber in low grip conditions makes it very easy to trigger the ABS.

My vorshlags would make significantly more noise in winter than in summer.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by FreeDarko

My vorshlags would make significantly more noise in winter than in summer.

Any idea why exactly? I fitted these in January, so that is winter anyway, but can't say I've noticed any difference in noise regardless of temperatures.

[FaRKle!]

Originally Posted by FreeDarko

Are they recommended or acceptable for winter use?

They should be fine for winter use. The plates are aluminum. I'm pretty sure the washer/plate encapsulated in the polyurethane that the damper piston shaft is mounted to is steel, but that should be protected from the bottom by your dust boot and on top by the top rubber boot. You can always rinse it out with fresh water if you're worried about salt corrosion.

You can also always ask Millway about it since they're in Sweden where they're no strangers to winter conditions.

[The Choosey begger]

The stock upper mounts dont have spherical bearings bc the shock shaft is almost at 90 degrees, with more negative you need spherical bearings or the shafts in your shocks will bow out!

[Kankles]

Thanks for the review on these. I've ordered them for the M2c. I think they will be a good compromise for street and occasional track duty.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

I run AC Scnitzer RS coilovers, which are effectively KW v3. Changing from stock suspension to ACS RS gave me more general road noise on bad road surfaces (of which there are a lot of in the UK), but no change with these plates.

Hey, could you please tell me how you've been satisfied (or not) with the ACS suspension? There's not even a handful of reviews of these. Reading through the German type approval certificates, there seems to be zero difference between the KW and ACS products (dampers and springs specs).

Cheers

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by swagon

Hey, could you please tell me how you've been satisfied (or not) with the ACS suspension? There's not even a handful of reviews of these. Reading through the German type approval certificates, there seems to be zero difference between the KW and ACS products (dampers and springs specs).

Cheers

I've been very happy with these. I have had a few sets of ACS suspension products now (coilovers on my old 335d, sports suspension on my current 340i), and always been very satisfied.

Whilst they are based on existing hardware, they tend to have invested more in matching the spring rate and the damper settings, so have recommended settings for road and track for their coilovers which I've found to be pretty much perfect.

They're firmer in spring rate than stock springs, but still fine for me as to use as a daily. On twisting back roads, canyon runs (as I think you guys call them in the States), they provide body control to a whole new level than stock dampers, which give a lot more confidence, and also improve traction hugely. On track they then give you a new level of performance too, such that the suspension no longer feels like the weak spot of the package (it then becomes the brakes).

I also was able to buy mine from a friend who moved on to Intrax coilovers, so did not pay full price. That made it a no brainer for me. Whether they are worth the additional price over KWv3 if buying both new... I think that is harder to argue. I suspect someone who's had a few sets of coilovers and knew what they were doing would happy enough to get a set of KWv3 and then choose the settings myself.

Hope that helps.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

I've been very happy with these. I have had a few sets of ACS suspension products now (coilovers on my old 335d, sports suspension on my current 340i), and always been very satisfied.

Whilst they are based on existing hardware, they tend to have invested more in matching the spring rate and the damper settings, so have recommended settings for road and track for their coilovers which I've found to be pretty much perfect.

They're firmer in spring rate than stock springs, but still fine for me as to use as a daily. On twisting back roads, canyon runs (as I think you guys call them in the States), they provide body control to a whole new level than stock dampers, which give a lot more confidence, and also improve traction hugely. On track they then give you a new level of performance too, such that the suspension no longer feels like the weak spot of the package (it then becomes the brakes).

I also was able to buy mine from a friend who moved on to Intrax coilovers, so did not pay full price. That made it a no brainer for me. Whether they are worth the additional price over KWv3 if buying both new... I think that is harder to argue. I suspect someone who's had a few sets of coilovers and knew what they were doing would happy enough to get a set of KWv3 and then choose the settings myself.

Hope that helps.

Thank you. I know how bad the roads are in the UK, live there half of the year, so if suspension works on rough UK b-roads, then it's gonna work here in my second home too. I'll probs hit up ACS and ask some questions regarding their development and specs.

[LOW4LYF]

Any dealer in the US?

Thanks

[FaRKle!]

Originally Posted by LOW4LYF

Any dealer in the US?

Thanks

Nope. Have to order from the source. But they ship VERY quickly, and email support is excellent.

[LOW4LYF]

Originally Posted by FaRKle!

Nope. Have to order from the source. But they ship VERY quickly, and email support is excellent.

Thanks!

[Shadow2]

Will these fit an F80? Reason I ask is because the website lists this part # for m2c & m4, and another for m3, the m3 one they list has spherical bearings. Is there even anything different between an m3 or m4 front suspension?

[LOW4LYF]

Originally Posted by Shadow2

Will these fit an F80? Reason I ask is because the website lists this part # for m2c & m4, and another for m3, the m3 one they list has spherical bearings. Is there even anything different between an m3 or m4 front suspension?

https://www.millway.se/camber-plates...0-f82-f83.html

Edit: Yes, the plates fit all F8x.

[Shadow2]

Originally Posted by LOW4LYF

https://www.millway.se/camber-plates...0-f82-f83.html

Edit: Yes, the plates fit all F8x.

The ones you linked to are not the same as the OPs.

https://www.millway.se/camber-plates...mw-m2c-m4.html

Thats them.

[LOW4LYF]

Originally Posted by Shadow2

The ones you linked to are not the same as the OPs.

https://www.millway.se/camber-plates...mw-m2c-m4.html

Thats them.

I hear you... just wanted to confirm M3 and M4 using the same suspension parts.

[dvq]

Originally Posted by anglo

The stock upper mounts dont have spherical bearings bc the shock shaft is almost at 90 degrees, with more negative you need spherical bearings or the shafts in your shocks will bow out!

This right here.

[JeffB-M3]

Originally Posted by Shadow2

The ones you linked to are not the same as the OPs.

https://www.millway.se/camber-plates...mw-m2c-m4.html

Thats them.

Looks like difference is stainless bearing in the M3 and M4 "for Motorsport" and poly bushing for street use on the M2C and M4.

[David.m]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Same here, and I like that I can have a near perfect road setting and a near perfect track setting. I already change the damper settings and the brake pads for track, so this will just become another part of the routine.

I'm just fitting these Millway street plates to my M2 (OG LCI but I have the F80 alloy/carbon strut bracing) and like you was planning to adjust camber for track when I do my pad/wheel swap (also planning to have a toe-in setting marked for track).

I'm part way through the install but it looks clear that to get max camber setting the alloy brace will have to be removed for access to the camber plate adjustment hex bolts. Do you remove the brace or just use the max setting allowable with brace installed & if the later was wondering what that camber setting is?

I'm booked in this week for an alignment and to mark both street & track camber/toe-in settings. I'm not really interested in having to remove the alloy brace each time so would be good to know in advance what I can get with it bolted in place.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by David.m

I'm just fitting these Millway street plates to my M2 (OG LCI but I have the F80 alloy/carbon strut bracing) and like you was planning to adjust camber for track when I do my pad/wheel swap (also planning to have a toe-in setting marked for track).

I'm part way through the install but it looks clear that to get max camber setting the alloy brace will have to be removed for access to the camber plate adjustment hex bolts. Do you remove the brace or just use the max setting allowable with brace installed & if the later was wondering what that camber setting is?

I'm booked in this week for an alignment and to mark both street & track camber/toe-in settings. I'm not really interested in having to remove the alloy brace each time so would be good to know in advance what I can get with it bolted in place.

For track I've got just about the maximum I can get without other bits getting in the way. My current setting is -2'48"

Even at that it can be awkward getting to one of them, and you run the risk of rounding out the hex bolt coming at it from an angle.

[Jamongkad]

Newbie question. Do these camber plates fit if you're running MPHAS?

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by Jamongkad

Newbie question. Do these camber plates fit if you're running MPHAS?

Yes I think so, as you could use them with stock springs.