M4 naming

[W///]

Originally Posted by turbolag

B9 RS4 and RS5 will go V6TT.

EDIT: Or you guys could debadge your M4 then stick a M3 logo on.

Exactly. Big freaken deal.

I didn't buy an M3 because of its heritage yet alone badging (because the E9x has so much in common with an E30 M3). I bought an E92 M3 because I like the car for what it is.

Could have been called the BMW Zamboni and I would have still bought it

[Eau Rouge]

Originally Posted by turbolag

B9 RS4 and RS5 will go V6TT.

EDIT: Or you guys could debadge your M4 then stick a M3 logo on.

Can't wait to read the rationalizations attempting to explain how doing that is OK whereas the dude that slaps an ///M badge on a 328 is a poser.

[larryn]

What strikes me as uber odd is the trend to have 4-door cars be odd number designations, and 2-door cars be even number designations. Then they mess all of that up by introducing the X4, X6, and 6 Series Gran Coupe'.

You could say 'sedan' vs. 'coupe', but the X4, X6, xnd 6 Series Gran Coupe'are not coupes... only by name.

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by larryn

What strikes me as uber odd is the trend to have 4-door cars be odd number designations, and 2-door cars be even number designations. Then they mess all of that up by introducing the X4, X6, and 6 Series Gran Coupe'.

You could say 'sedan' vs. 'coupe', but the X4, X6, xnd 6 Series Gran Coupe'are not coupes... only by name.

+1

Agreed

[phrozen06]

Just buy an M4, then go to the parts counter at the dealership, buy an M3 badge, replace the M4 logo on your trunk. Problem Solved.

[zamboni]

Originally Posted by FVM3

I dont think they will put the m3 badge on the coupe

Remove the badge and replace it with a M3. Problem solve.

[W///]

Originally Posted by larryn

What strikes me as uber odd is the trend to have 4-door cars be odd number designations, and 2-door cars be even number designations. Then they mess all of that up by introducing the X4, X6, and 6 Series Gran Coupe'.

You could say 'sedan' vs. 'coupe', but the X4, X6, xnd 6 Series Gran Coupe'are not coupes... only by name.

While I agree that "Coupe" means 2 door, some people interpret coupe as a low roofline. The GC is a "Coupe" because it has a sleeker roofline than the sedan, not because of the doors.

Either way, that's something that can be debated for hours. There were very strong rumors that the E92 was going to be the first 4 Series. Are you guys telling me that would have stopped you from enjoying the glorious S65? I doubt it.

[zamboni]

Originally Posted by southlight

Like I said, the decision has been made, it's gonna be called M4.


Best regards,
south

Did BMW registered the M4 trade mark some time this year?

[Transfer]

This thread fails so hard.
M3, M4 whatever. The only reason anyone cares is because they're worried that when they try to impress people by saying they have an M4, no one is going to know what they're talking about. I got news for you... Most people don't even know what an M3 really is so boo frickin hoo.

And to the guy who says it *might* still be called M3 coupe, using your logic it also *might* be called the banana boat. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[IND-Distribution]

Originally Posted by zamboni

Did BMW registered the M4 trade mark some time this year?

They did many years ago.

[Blindside_137]

Originally Posted by Transfer

This thread fails so hard.
M3, M4 whatever. The only reason anyone cares is because they're worried that when they try to impress people by saying they have an M4, no one is going to know what they're talking about. I got news for you... Most people don't even know what an M3 really is so boo frickin hoo.

And to the guy who says it *might* still be called M3 coupe, using your logic it also *might* be called the banana boat. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

HAHAHA +10000

[TrevorM3]

i can't believe we're actually talking about this. BMW could careless about how any of us feel.

[JTO24]

Originally Posted by turbolag

B9 RS4 and RS5 will go V6TT.

EDIT: Or you guys could debadge your M4 then stick a M3 logo on.

If you look at the "S55 powered M4 revealed by VIN" thread and look at the options list, there's a line that says:

320. model designation, deletion

So BMW might be anticipating the debadgers lol

[FVM3]

Originally Posted by JTO24

If you look at the "S55 powered M4 revealed by VIN" thread and look at the options list, there's a line that says:

320. model designation, deletion

So BMW might be anticipating the debadgers lol

I always debadge my car.

[JTO24]

Originally Posted by FVM3

I always debadge my car.

I have nothing against it, personally I just thought that option line was funny.

[catherineanh]

asians don't like the number 4 symbolizes death...

[sensi09]

If anything, the coupe should have remained the M3 since its more popular with the M4 being given to the sedan. I'm just glad there's a M3/M4 sedan....I remember that being in doubt for awhile

But with that, there probably would have been lots of hoopla about the F30 being called a 4 series.

[FVM3]

Originally Posted by JTO24

I have nothing against it, personally I just thought that option line was funny.

Maybe they know that we dont like the name M4

[larryn]

Originally Posted by W///

While I agree that "Coupe" means 2 door, some people interpret coupe as a low roofline. The GC is a "Coupe" because it has a sleeker roofline than the sedan, not because of the doors.

Either way, that's something that can be debated for hours. There were very strong rumors that the E92 was going to be the first 4 Series. Are you guys telling me that would have stopped you from enjoying the glorious S65? I doubt it.

Who said that naming would have prevented us from buying? I think we're all saying that it creating confusion with the marque (at best), and plain goofy (at the opposite end of the spectrum).

[IB M]

The 3 series is the all time highest selling BMW and their most important car. Three (3) is a holy number.

[e1000]

Originally Posted by awong

To loosely quote one of the guys at BMW NA, they wanted to separate the 3 and the 3 coupe for easier model designation/recognition in the future. The E36 coupe and sedan bodies were basically identical, you could picture it right away. The E46 had front design changes between the coupe and sedan, and nearly identical rear. Also easy to picture when mentioning E46 3 series.

But where it gets messy is when the E9x started, with the coupe design sharing nothing but the front end with the sedan, as with the convertible. You say e9x 3 series, and you get a mixed picture of whatever body style 3 you are most fond of, E90/1/2/3. They want to change that to where when you say 3, you think sedan/wagon. You say 4, you think of coupe. Makes somewhat more sense after I heard that.

That's at least what I got out of what the guys were talking about at the latest CCA meet in NJ.

WHAT? Show me the difference between an E46 M3 Coupe and a............ yeah.

Also note, they are segregating the chassis designation for the M cars from their series counterparts starting from the F30/F80 as well.

Honestly, I don't really care, but I think the general issue with this is the sedan is keeping the M3 badge, but historically, it should belong to the coupe.

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by zamboni

Don't understood why BMW would phase out the M3 naming and in favorite of M4 ? For decades BMW M3 was well known brand name why mess up up a good name and replace with an unrecognized M4?

Because M3 with turbocharged engine is no more an M3, hence M4.