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      01-31-2014, 06:00 PM   #243
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So the Sedan has the same 0-60 as the coupe? I would think sedan is heavier.

So E9x supposedly had the most powerful stereo with EPS in any BMW, now they only offer a Harmon Kardon system, but not the Bangun Olufson? Odd. I don't like either HK or BO. I'm warming up to EPS since the subs are breaking in.
Stated 0-60 times are just conservative estimates. They've never been close to what magazines test, which are generally a few tenths quicker.
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Stated 0-60 times are just conservative estimates. They've never been close to what magazines test, which are generally a few tenths quicker.
I think this car can easily break 3.7 in 0-60. I saw a lot of reviews of the current M3 doing 4.0s 0-60, that's 0.5s quicker than BMW's time.

That being said, we all need to remember that getting faster is exponentially difficult especially in sub 4.0 seconds.
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      01-31-2014, 06:16 PM   #245
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Yea I'm really hoping the F80/82 has a different HK sound system. I wasn't all that impressed with the one in the F30. It pretty much sounded like my Logic 7 in my 07 335i.
I like the Logic 7 in my 08 M3. MUCH BETTER THAN THE e46 HK setup!!!!! That was terrible, especially in my convertible.

I should have pushed the button in the M4 in Detroit, but they were nice enough to unlock the door for me and another forum member because we were prior M owners and I was ordering one.
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      01-31-2014, 06:18 PM   #246
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I think this car can easily break 3.7 in 0-60. I saw a lot of reviews of the current M3 doing 4.0s 0-60, that's 0.5s quicker than BMW's time.

easily is too strong of a word!!!

That being said, we all need to remember that getting faster is exponentially difficult especially in sub 4.0 seconds.
Don't understand what you mean, not being sarcastic, I really just don't understand this comment
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Don't understand what you mean, not being sarcastic, I really just don't understand this comment
I think he just meant that traction becomes the limiting factor sub-4.0 0-60 times.
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I think he just meant that traction becomes the limiting factor sub-4.0 0-60 times.
Yes. Sorry for not being clear.
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So wait... E92m does 0-62 in 4 seconds? No mods? And now the f80m is also at or below 4 seconds? Hmmm ok then so a heavier less torque car does the same time at a light turbo charged car. These forums are just too funny...BMW is a liar :-)

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So wait... E92m does 0-62 in 4 seconds? No mods? And now the f80m is also at or below 4 seconds? Hmmm ok then so a heavier less torque car does the same time at a light turbo charged car. These forums are just too funny...BMW is a liar :-)
No....

What they are saying is that BMW quoted a 0-60 of like 4.6 for the e9x and it actually tested as low as 4.0.

The f8x is quoted at 4.1 so it could conceivably be expected to be well below 4.0. But as some said , traction is a big problem with that low of times.

The difference should be very substantial from a roll, and also seen in quarter mile trap speeds

M3 and other bmws have almost always run faster times in tests than BMW quoted.
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So wait... E92m does 0-62 in 4 seconds? No mods? And now the f80m is also at or below 4 seconds? Hmmm ok then so a heavier less torque car does the same time at a light turbo charged car. These forums are just too funny...BMW is a liar :-)
No point was BMW's times are usually 0.3-0.5s slower than the actual times magazines do. So most likely the new car will do a lot quicker.
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      01-31-2014, 09:51 PM   #252
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I think he just meant that traction becomes the limiting factor sub-4.0 0-60 times.
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Yes. Sorry for not being clear.
Ohhhhhhh sorry. I get it now. Not used to going that fast LOL!!!! That makes perfect sense
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      02-01-2014, 07:39 AM   #253
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Ohhhhhhh sorry. I get it now. Not used to going that fast LOL!!!! That makes perfect sense
After spending two years on the 335i forum I think I know everything there is to know about 0-60, 1/4 mile times, 1/4 mile traps, 60' times etc. It gets really obnoxious (but a little educational).

As long as I can remember, 0-60 times from BMW were conservative, generally what you'd get consistently with little or no wheel spin/ launch.
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Tired of the "Toyota / GM" package model BMW has gone to. You used to be able to order the car the way you want it.

Now to get 1 thing, you have to ruin your entire car.....ridiculous. Was a huge part of the buying experience and thing that set BMW apart, and something that was another perk and reason to buy a BMW and spend the extra $$$.

Not anymore.....smh


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Yeah, can't complain too much. Porsche is king at nickel-diming every little thing. You can get exactly what you want, but you can damn near double the base price.
at least BMW hasn't thrown in B&O audio yet lol
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Tired of the "Toyota / GM" package model BMW has gone to. You used to be able to order the car the way you want it.

Now to get 1 thing, you have to ruin your entire car.....ridiculous. Was a huge part of the buying experience and thing that set BMW apart, and something that was another perk and reason to buy a BMW and spend the extra $$$.

Not anymore.....smh


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So you're definitely not buying an F8X.....right?
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      02-01-2014, 12:07 PM   #257
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Apologize if I missed this in an earlier post but do you have purchase the Executive Package in order to get a back up camera?

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Apologize if I missed this in an earlier post but do you have purchase the Executive Package in order to get a back up camera?

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It would seem that way. I believe the back-up camera was packaged on the F30/32's as well.
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      02-01-2014, 12:45 PM   #259
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It would seem that way. I believe the back-up camera was packaged on the F30/32's as well.
Not sure why you need rear PDC with the camera? I hate the bumper nipples.
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      02-01-2014, 01:02 PM   #260
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Not sure why you need rear PDC with the camera? I hate the bumper nipples.
I think they give the bumper character. They integrate really wheel into the bumpers, unlike other PDC systems I've seen.
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why? was the same way last time. not every wants the 19's, which have minor performance and comfort compromises. personally, I'm only gonna get the 19's if I get the CCB's (since you have to). otherwise, I'd much prefer the 18's.

EDC was a ~$1,000 option on the e90 as well
They are standard here in the UK, its a bit stingy of them to have it standard here then change it for the US like that, its not like you're a little market is it?
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