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      01-06-2014, 04:43 PM   #89
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And price sheet.
And if there's any way to defeat the "active sound" we all know is coming...
The ASD can be defeated by using a custom plug. No cutting of any wires, ASD still is serviceable.
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      01-06-2014, 04:46 PM   #90
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Why do they always choose the worst colors for the launch cars? Smurf blue and metallic Dakar Yellow. Somebody get me an air sickness bag.
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      01-06-2014, 04:54 PM   #91
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I think many people including me, would like to know when will Bmw Welt start the M3/M4 deliveries to non German owners ?

In addition, do they plan to offer a Bang and Olufsen audio upgrade ?

Finally it would make sense to know what is the exact kurb weight with STD brakes, and the same with CCB brakes .

Some official lap times
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      01-06-2014, 04:55 PM   #92
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Why do they look like monster trucks in those pictures?
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      01-06-2014, 04:56 PM   #93
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Will the M-DCT cars use the same transmission model and user interface selections/features as the E9X M3's?
One item I have already noted is the rear axle ratio will be higher (numerically lower) because of the greater torque available and also to improve fuel mileage.
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      01-06-2014, 05:15 PM   #94
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Base MSRP?

Ceramic brake additional cost? I know they provide more adequate heat dissipation, but do they provide additional stopping power?
Stopping power is a function of tire traction these days. Even basic brake systems can lockup the wheels or hit the ABS threshold, at that point bigger brakes do nothing.
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      01-06-2014, 05:16 PM   #95
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Just really hoping to see some good, high quality pictures of the Yas Marina blue and the interior. I really want to order blue but I'm just not sure about this super light blue and want to see what it looks like without all the air brushing.
after watching this vid, the only better picture would be is to actually see it in person and drive it!

M3 track

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      01-06-2014, 05:18 PM   #96
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People complain that cars only come in shades of grey now. Then when they put out some loud colors others complain.
Five of the eight colors are still shades of grey. The problem is they have nothing between that and the ridiculously bright blue, yellow, and orange. Eight colors is just too few for a car like this (normal 3 series has 13!). The new M3/M4 have got to be some of the only cars out there that aren't available in red or a mainstream blue.
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      01-06-2014, 05:25 PM   #97
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The two most important questions that will determine if I will buy this M series.
What oil viscosity will this engine run.
What are the engine bearing clearances.
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      01-06-2014, 05:26 PM   #98
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Stopping power is a function of tire traction these days. Even basic brake systems can lockup the wheels or hit the ABS threshold, at that point bigger brakes do nothing.
I believe the aim with bigger brakes in general is not more power (actually torque) but better power dissipation for more consistent performance over repeated use.

And the CC brakes on this M3/4 will be more designed for long life under street conditions than high energy conditions like racing.
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      01-06-2014, 05:29 PM   #99
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Smokey Burnout Function - joke or real?
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      01-06-2014, 05:29 PM   #100
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after watching this vid, the only better picture would be is to actually see it in person and drive it!

M3 track
Thanks for posting the vid. Although honestly, that just confirms for me how much I dislike Yaz Marina blue. And whoever titled that video clearly has a different definition of "LOVELY Sound" than I do.
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When will the 22" Spinner wheels be available?

IS BMW holding them back in order to make us buy them when they are part of the complete competition package in 2 years?
Additional cost of Spinners?
What colors will they paint the wheels? (please no more: black, grey, white, blue, red, yellow, orange, green). Maybe more beige or pink!!
What will the spinners weigh, and will they change my center of gravity?
What are the Nurburging lap times with the spinners (rotational mass around the corners must shave at least 20 sec. off the lap time)
Will there be an option to light up the Spinners with LEDs (please none of the old Edison bulbs!)? If No LEDs to light the wheel how about some extra illuminated M3/4 badges along the spokes....
Will the spinning motion be controlled by crappy turbos or will they be naturally aspirated?
Will the Spinners be part of the "Smokey Burnout" package?
Might there be a CFRP version of the spinners as an LCI update?
How will they sound when spinning at a stoplight?
Will the Spinners effect the electro-magnetic-Tesla-AC/DC Steering feel?
I heard a rumor that the Spinners will only be touched by one mechanic while being manufactured in a secret facility hidden in a Bavarian mountainside, can they confirm?
Please don't allow the 22" spinners be an option on any other BMW, it would make mine less special and unique.

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      01-06-2014, 05:38 PM   #102
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here is a good question to M reps:

Would there be M POWER TOUR for M3/M4 anytime soon so we could get to drive the car?

if yes- where and how do we sign up?

last M Power Tour for E90/E92 was awesome and is what got me to buy E92!!!
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      01-06-2014, 05:42 PM   #103
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Things I wish to have!
Full LED tail lights
Black paint for the metals (eg:kidneys we had for the concept ver.)
The beautiful 20-inch rim from the concept...
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      01-06-2014, 05:50 PM   #104
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I believe the aim with bigger brakes in general is not more power (actually torque) but better power dissipation for more consistent performance over repeated use.

And the CC brakes on this M3/4 will be more designed for long life under street conditions than high energy conditions like racing.
Right but the question was two part, the first about fade (which CC should help and hopefully is an improvement) and second was about power, which as addressed by several, is not relevant with modern performance cars.
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      01-06-2014, 05:50 PM   #105
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Is there a premium audio option? If so, what is it?
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      01-06-2014, 05:53 PM   #106
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How could you screw up the hood so badly? Have you yet fired the designer and are you considering a pre-LCI correction?

There's my question!
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      01-06-2014, 05:54 PM   #107
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no you aren't. they are catering to Middle East and China and using R&D on "I" bs models. Yaz Marina or whatever that toothpaste color is just nasty. Such a shame ...
It breaks my heart. You know I always ask my self why is BMW going backwards? We have made so much progress with bangle in terms of giving each car its own identity. I as so happy and proud to get out of the "same sausage different length" mentality. I hate the fact that all the cars are going back to that design concept, and now I can't differentiate between the new models on the road at night, and thats a problem. If an enthusiast cant differentiate how can the general public even attempt to tell the difference? GOD DAMN THE NEW X5 is RUINED! how did they fuck up that design? that was their best looking beast that oozed testosterone... these new X5's looking lame with their ML styled rear, and weird fender flares. Really now happy with this. I would have walked into a BMW dealership 5 years ago and would have been happy walking out of there with ANY MODEL no matter what and be proud of it... Now, I would only buy a few of the new BMW's and the only one I am thoroughly excited for is the M6 GC. For anything else, I would probably want the CPO'd older version of it. :/

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I didn't like that design initially either. But now after smoking some joints, I like how they joined them and I hope that in the LCI, they join it even more...put a light between the two kidney grilles or join the two kidney grilles together or stretch the headlights to join the front wheel well. Because, you know, joints are good.

By the way, you asked 5 questions, not 3. You smoking a joint, bro?
LMFAOOO yeah im always lit but I know it can look good, but if I do buy the new M3 you bet your ass I am going to customize it to un-join the headlights.
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      01-06-2014, 06:10 PM   #108
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You should really stick to questions actually mentioning the M3/M4 in general.
You will not get an answer to some of the questions being asked.
Especially in the questions you want answered.

In someway some questions have already been answered.
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      01-06-2014, 06:13 PM   #109
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Can you spec the M3 without the M badges? IMO having 3 seems to be a bit more exclusive than having something with M on it.

On a serious note is this the end of bespoke M engines?

(Loving whipping the AMGs with the M4 in GT6, awesome car)
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Any chance of an Mi3 or i3 M Sport?
No. BMWi is the opposite bookend to BMW M.
They are two individual sub-brands supporting the core BMW brand in the centre. The two sub-brands will not cross-over.
But will feature their own sub-brands.

BMW M Performance -which is already here.
BMW eDrive - core BMW models that are electric and plug-in hybrids.

BMW M.
BMW M Performance

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BMWi
BMW eDrive.
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