Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[Tecnniqe]

Originally Posted by Arcades

Well uh... met the AMG G-Wagon because the new one with markup is basically at $250k.

An AMG-Geländewagen is allowed to do it

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Arcades

Well uh... met the AMG G-Wagon because the new one with markup is basically at $250k.

I never understood the craze on those things. Those are hideous IMO as well.

[CT_M3]

I stumbled upon Matt Farah's review of the 440 xdrive (not sure how I missed it). Relative to RugbyBro's beautiful picture of all the past generation Ms, it's important to also reflect on where BMW is right now as a car company, not just because this iteration looks jarring.

Some of his impressions:
"This was the ultimate driving machine like 10 years ago now it's like the ultimate machine for people that would rather do basically anything besides drive"

On the new grill design:
"I've never I haven't spoken to anybody in the last six months that thinks that actually looks good so you know whatever they were thinking they sure committed to it, but yuck it's a it's a heinous looking car.

I think you know just how it looks would keep me out of it. This thing could be the best driving car in the world but no thank you"

[FormulaMMM]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

For some TBT action for this thread... now these are some freaking family photos - they are all very obviously related, you can see the family genes are strong in each one. It's actually really cool looking at these now that F8X is the outgoing generation. It's cool to see how and when certain elements were introduced and how they've evolved

Helping a buddy on a search for an M3. He vacillates between 36, 46, 90. Basically he's in desperation mode and would take a good deal on anything.

G8X are now showing up and look like total monstrosities in the context of all these listings, no other way to put it.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by FormulaMMM

Helping a buddy on a search for an M3. He vacillates between 36, 46, 90. Basically he's in desperation mode and would take a good deal on anything.

Well, he can't really go wrong with any of them! Looking at each M3, there really is something for everyone.

I have a feeling this car market will crash once things get back to "normal" so there may be good deals to have as early as Q3/Q4 of this year if life is abel to resume by then. If we compare to Pre-COVID, which was a relative market high WITH normal living circumstances, M3s of all generations were just sitting around begging to be bought by anybody. The level of demand for sporty cars (like an M3) is quite perplexing but unsurprising. I guess in the most simple terms... too many people have too much time on their hands lol! I'd be lying if I said I didn't boredom shop for 981s as a form of escapism in the past year.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by CT_M3

Some of his impressions:
"This was the ultimate driving machine like 10 years ago now it's like the ultimate machine for people that would rather do basically anything besides drive"

Yup, this about sums up my experience with the late F Chassis and G Chassis cars I've driven. I concede though that the insulation really started becoming noticeable with standard F-cars like F10/30/32, which I think is fine for that specific generation especially since the M models were/are still quite raw and unwieldy (well at least from comparing F30/32 to F80/82), so there is a natural balance there and appeal for enthusiast customers. I'm preaching to the choir here but even the simple use of a DCT really separates the M from the Non-M. Having owned a F32 and owning a F82, they are immensely different experiences - you can feel how mechanically different the two are (and see it as well, which is pretty cool having worked on both).

[FormulaMMM]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

Well, he can't really go wrong with any of them! Looking at each M3, there really is something for everyone.

I have a feeling this car market will crash once things get back to "normal" so there may be good deals to have as early as Q3/Q4 of this year if life is abel to resume by then. If we compare to Pre-COVID, which was a relative market high WITH normal living circumstances, M3s of all generations were just sitting around begging to be bought by anybody. The level of demand for sporty cars (like an M3) is quite perplexing but unsurprising. I guess in the most simple terms... too many people have too much time on their hands lol! I'd be lying if I said I didn't boredom shop for 981s as a form of escapism in the past year.

Maybe, but bargains are nowhere to be found right now. And I think G8X will only prompt previous gen hoarding and appreciation.

E36 market is crazy. Only 18 total listed on Cars.com and pricing for a good example is about in line with an F82 of equal mileage.

Agree with Harris, F8X is the performance bargain of the moment. M4 with reasonable mileage are in the mid-30's. Shell out 2.5x that for a G8X?? Why???

[stein_325i]

They weren't covered last week...

[Tecnniqe]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

They weren't covered last week...

Isn’t that how everyone ordered them?

[dms-01]

Originally Posted by Tecnniqe

Isn’t that how everyone ordered them?

Lol. My local got an M3 and 2 M4s so I am going to swing by and check them out later today. Hoping to be able to drive the M3 even though its a comp and I prefer a manual.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by Tecnniqe

Damn that’s one sexy photo. It perfectly displays the artistic design changes over the decades. Small but noticeable changes from the start all the way to the F8X.

Yes! This is exactly what I am appreciating more and more, especially since F8X is now the "older" generation. Even if you but E30 and F8X next to each other, there are enough design similarities between the two to draw the conclusion that they are cut from the same cloth; in this case, the shoulder line, the kink, round headlights/DRLs, & Kidneys - obviously helps to have the in-between generations to fill in the gaps but still can see the DNA without them

[secretanchitman]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

They weren't covered last week...

Wow even the grills stick out like a sore thumb underneath the cover!

[secretanchitman]

Originally Posted by dms-01

Lol. My local got an M3 and 2 M4s so I am going to swing by and check them out later today. Hoping to be able to drive the M3 even though its a comp and I prefer a manual.

I think the dealer nearby got an M4 6MT and M3 8AT but my preferred dealer only has M3/M4 8AT - I do want to test drive it just to see how it is in person.

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

They weren't covered last week...

They were probably blinding people in the showroom "aaahhhhh my eyes!!!!!"

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

They were probably blinding people in the showroom "aaahhhhh my eyes!!!!!"

I found it very odd. If they don't want people to touch, you put a sign up, not to mention every car on the showroom floor was locked anyways, and these two units weren't sold. And they aren't allowed to be sold/driven for another week, so why the sheet? Especially when they weren't covered last week? If you want to get customers excited they shouldn't put the sheet on.

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

They weren't covered last week...

maybe it caused undesired behaviour from customers

[irunalot]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

I found it very odd. If they don't want people to touch, you put a sign up, not to mention every car on the showroom floor was locked anyways, and these two units weren't sold. And they aren't allowed to be sold/driven for another week, so why the sheet? Especially when they weren't covered last week? If you want to get customers excited they shouldn't put the sheet on.

maybe the sheet is there to protect customers from the giant beaver that lies beneath.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

They weren't covered last week...

Good lord I can still see that front end through the covers.

[stein_325i]

Another photo comparison, this time an M2CS.

And this one is real interesting because a card that the G8X fanboys always pull is the "but it looks much more aggressive with the big grills." Here actually I find the M2CS more aggressive even with smaller and proportionate grills. This is because like the F-Generation vehicles, the use of harder body-lines and sharer creases outdo the soft and faint creases and body-lines of the G8X. Even with a large grill and air intake, the front end is softer and has less depth to it mainly from the headlights and lower creases.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

This is because like the F-Generation vehicles, the use of harder body-lines and sharer creases

Exactly! Also, this really puts the M2's actual size into perspective. Not that anyone here says it, but I keep hearing from non-car and car people I know that the M2 is the "smaller, lighter" car ad nauseam. Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic fun car because of the wheel base, but it ain't smaller and it ain't lighter

[irunalot]

The M2CS looks more aggressive and functional.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

Exactly! Also, this really puts the M2's actual size into perspective. Not that anyone here says it, but I keep hearing from non-car and car people I know that the M2 is the "smaller, lighter" car ad nauseam. Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic fun car because of the wheel base, but it ain't smaller and it ain't lighter

Agree, it still is a porker for a car of its size, but luckily it has many redeeming qualities going for it.